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canucmeee



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Certification Reply with quote

I am interested in going to Prague for certification and to teach. I am not sure if I will make a career of it but am planning on being there at least one year. That being said, I have seen someplace on here or the expats site that the Caledonian School's certification program is only good for Eastern Europe and isn't worth much elsewhere. Is this true? Is it worth it (extra expense, etc) to get certified with Trinity or Cambridge CELTA if I am not sure how long I will be over there?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caledonian offers a decent generic cert, though it's not the brand name. I have a similar cert (from way back in 1998) and never had any problem with recognition, in Europe and Canada, but haven't tried Asia.

Any cert that is 120 hours on site, including teaching practice on real students, should meet the standard.

Though CELTA and Trinity are the brand names~!!
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Celta and Trinity Tesol certificates are definitely the better known brands, but I would base your decision on whether the Caledonian program is worthwhile or not, in and of itself. I received a Tefl years ago from ITC which is (was??) based in Prague. I haven't had any trouble in China with it being an 'off-brand'. China requires a bachelor's and some sort of Celta/Tesol/Tefl plus two years experience. On the other hand, teachers with lesser qualifications often find work in the out of the way locations and with unscrupulous employers in the private sector. Check the various Asian forums. I believe Japan doesn't even care about any of those certificates. I don't know about Korea or Taiwan, but I can't imagine Southeast Asian countries being too specific about which one.

If it's a good program it's worth your while. At minimum, look for 100+ hours of instruction and at least six hours of observed practice teaching. Check for student feedback but not only on the school's website!
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Celta and Trinity Tesol certificates are definitely the better known brands, but I would base your decision on whether the Caledonian program is worthwhile or not, in and of itself. I received a Tefl years ago from ITC which is (was??) based in Prague. I haven't had any trouble in China with it being an 'off-brand'. China requires a bachelor's and some sort of Celta/Tesol/Tefl plus two years experience. On the other hand, teachers with lesser qualifications often find work in the out of the way locations and with unscrupulous employers in the private sector. Check the various Asian forums. I believe Japan doesn't even care about any of those certificates. I don't know about Korea or Taiwan, but I can't imagine Southeast Asian countries being too specific about which one.

If it's a good program it's worth your while. At minimum, look for 100+ hours of instruction and at least six hours of observed practice teaching. Check for student feedback but not only on the school's website!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cert course was also ITC, 1998.Smile
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smithryansmith



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caledonian gets trainees due to that garantee. its fine, but if you are reasonably competent youll be able to find a better paying job. dont let that garantee be only reason you choose the school. the TEFL courses in prague all have good reps. id say:

If you want to make TEFL teaching a career, do the CELTA at akcent.

If you just wany to do it for a year or two, go for the cheapest option. ITC or one of those. in the beginning youll need any extra money you can get before your first paycheck.

lots of ITC grads on this thread Smile
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, ITC certified lots of us (and didn't certify some - my course had 13 trainees, and only 3 of us passed Surprised ). But I think it's long gone!!

Yes, Caledonian's salaries were considered at the low end for the city (am not sure if that is true this year, but it has been over the past 10 or so) but some newbies are OK with that, in return for the security of the 'guaranteed' job. It might be an acceptable trade-off for some people.
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smithryansmith



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. 3 out of 13. it must have been a tough course. Or you must have had some less than stellar people. ITC is still kicking. Might have changed owners, though. Lots of good memories from my course.

http://www.itc-training.com/
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canucmeee



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:39 pm&nbs