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Meagan0813



Joined: 16 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: tks Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for your advice. I really appreciate it. I decided to quit, I was on a plane this morning back to the USA, and I am now sitting at home with loved ones and my cat. If some of you were trying to make me nervous, to open up the job market, I really think you stink, but for the rest of you who gave me your honest, sincere advice, which I think is most, if not all of you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I feel safe and sound and that is most important.

Meagan

PS. Japan is a beautiful country, I plan to be back someday - under a nicer set of circumstances.
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seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

firehorseglass wrote:
She asked you for photocopies of your college diploma. I had to send my original to Aeon in New York who then sent it to Japan, plus I believe my passport had to go with it.


You don't necessarily need to send the original diploma. I only needed to send a copy along with either an original set of transcripts or an original signed letter saying that I had graduated.

And as to having to part with your passport... once again they only needed a copy of the info page. The only time I was parted from my passport was when I took it along with my COE to the embassy to process my visa (which we are required to do in person), which was 3 days.


And to Megan... I don't think anyone here was trying to unnecessarily scare you in order to open the job market or otherwise. If you looked up the penalties yourself for working illegally, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have even stepped foot through that school's doors. I sure as well wouldn't have knowing that in most eastern asian countries I stick out like a sore thumb and if I stick around any area for too long, am very likely to get asked for papers at some point. Hell... I've already been approached by the police in Japan 3 times since March 23rd (granted that only one set of police actually questioned me and looked at my passport, the other two just handed back my passport without even openning it when I said I was from the UK. Probably assumed I was just a tourist.)
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BobbyBan



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:04 am    Post subject: Re: tks Reply with quote

Meagan0813 wrote:
If some of you were trying to make me nervous, to open up the job market, I really think you stink,


Yeah, because that job of yours sounded like everyone's dream job. Rolling Eyes
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bearcat



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: tks Reply with quote

Meagan0813 wrote:

PS. Japan is a beautiful country, I plan to be back someday - under a nicer set of circumstances.


I think such circumstances will depend alot on you. After all, you made the choice to place yourself in these circumstances to begin with.

Perhaps if you do plan to ever return, you'll be a little bit wiser for the wear.
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Meagan0813



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: tks Reply with quote

bearcat wrote:
Meagan0813 wrote:

PS. Japan is a beautiful country, I plan to be back someday - under a nicer set of circumstances.


I think such circumstances will depend alot on you. After all, you made the choice to place yourself in these circumstances to begin with.

Perhaps if you do plan to ever return, you'll be a little bit wiser for the wear.


Yes, Bearcat, I know this was my responsibility. You've said so many times. I will be back under a nicer set of circumstances - all in all, including everything. Again, thank you for your advice.
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Meagan0813



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
And to Megan... I don't think anyone here was trying to unnecessarily scare you in order to open the job market or otherwise. If you looked up the penalties yourself for working illegally, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have even stepped foot through that school's doors. I sure as well wouldn't have knowing that in most eastern asian countries I stick out like a sore thumb and if I stick around any area for too long, am very likely to get asked for papers at some point. Hell... I've already been approached by the police in Japan 3 times since March 23rd (granted that only one set of police actually questioned me and looked at my passport, the other two just handed back my passport without even openning it when I said I was from the UK. Probably assumed I was just a tourist.)


Thanks, I appreciate knowing that.
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starteacher



Joined: 25 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meagan0813

Would it be too awkward for you to post the name of the school that has cause the grievances, so that any future people will also be made aware of ?
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Meagan0813



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: sure Reply with quote

starteacher wrote:
Meagan0813

Would it be too awkward for you to post the name of the school that has cause the grievances, so that any future people will also be made aware of ?


Because of the situation and how uncomfortable I am with everything surrounding it, I would rather not.... just ask a lot of questions, have time to prepare, don't ever take anything on the spot like I did,,,, with 10 days to be there, and have your work permit in hand from day 1. And, this is to the newbies, not to all of you who gave me so much good infromation. Thank you again.


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G Cthulhu



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: and Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
G Cthulhu wrote:


Putting aside everything else (y'know - the working illegally, hours yr being paid for, blahblah), that doesn't actually strike me as a gruelling schedule. Sucky, yes, but not exactly difficult or even unusual. It looks to be more at the crappy end of eikaiwa typical.
No, don't put aside the illegalities. Ever!


You've misunderstood: the illegalities are obvious and had already been covered in some depth. I didn't feel any need to add my 2 yen.

I was thinking of the thread as a whole and then dividing each of the complaints up and considering them on their individual merit. With all of Meagan's complaints and then the actual details she posted *I* wasn't really seeing much of any concern *outside of the obvious illegal parts*. Beyond those components, the contract merely sucked in total, but it was hardly unusual.
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starteacher



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last two posts before this have also made me agree with G Cthulhu.

But I will respect each person's respect and dignity.
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bearcat



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: sure Reply with quote

Meagan0813 wrote:
starteacher wrote:
Meagan0813

Would it be too awkward for you to post the name of the school that has cause the grievances, so that any future people will also be made aware of ?


Because of the situation and how uncomfortable I am with everything surrounding it, I would rather not.... just ask a lot of questions, have time to prepare, don't ever take anything on the spot like I did,,,, with 10 days to be there, and have your work permit in hand from day 1. And, this is to the newbies, not to all of you who gave me so much good infromation. Thank you again.


This is the thread you started on the school:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=734744&highlight=#734744
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first the OP posted
Quote:
Because of the situation and how uncomfortable I am with everything surrounding it, I would rather not....



and then bearcat posted
Quote:
This is the thread you started on the school:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=734744&highlight=#734744


Can anyone say 'ooooops'?

Oh well, even with the antibashing policy here, this is a case for the books!
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bearcat



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaijinalways wrote:
first the OP posted
Quote:
Because of the situation and how uncomfortable I am with everything surrounding it, I would rather not....



and then bearcat posted
Quote:
This is the thread you started on the school:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=734744&highlight=#734744


Can anyone say 'ooooops'?

Oh well, even with the antibashing policy here, this is a case for the books!


If the name of the school or other information were not already public knowledge on the board, then I could see your point. Startteacher's point concerning letting others know what happened and what school seems a valid reason for reference to help others.
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starteacher



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bearcat wrote:
If the name of the school or other information were not already public knowledge on the board, then I could see your point. Startteacher's point concerning letting others know what happened and what school seems a valid reason for reference to help others.


I was unaware that another thread had the name of the school.
This thread is only under a week old an the OP has already left. So for anyone new to this forum it can be quite a misleading thread. THough she mentioned the name of the school before and not here this time is all but a minor issue.

Because, the victim here is Meagan0813 and I wish her well on the next step of her new journey, and sincerely hope she succeeds against all battles whether internally or externally. I am glad she has taken the positive decision and removed all the negativies surrounding her bad experience, so she can go on and give her services at a better place.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry bearcat, you misconstrued my meaning. I think it is a good idea to post such info, but the site owners sometimes don't like it, i.e. info on 'bad' schools.
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