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roywebcafe



Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: ILA in Ho Chi Minh City Reply with quote

Hi folks

Have been offered a teaching post with ILA in Ho Chi Minh City. Can anyone tell me what its like to work for them and what experiences you had? I am in UK and its along way to go to find out its a nightmare. got job through a third party an agency called teach around. I wonder if they are getting a share of my salary like temping agencies do in the UK?
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Mattingly



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: ILA in Ho Chi Minh City Reply with quote

roywebcafe wrote:
Hi folks

Have been offered a teaching post with ILA in Ho Chi Minh City. Can anyone tell me what its like to work for them and what experiences you had? I am in UK and its along way to go to find out its a nightmare.


If you've been hired from the UK, I presume you have a BA/BS and Celta.

ILA likes to hire from overseas to keep the pay rates low, in my opinion. The school also likes fresh, young teachers, and has resources and workshops for the new teachers. Whatever they are doing and however they are doing it, it's working.

During the course of this year, less ILA teachers have been returning home because of the slow hiring and economic circumstances. Hiring has slowed at ILA and at other schools.

Many schools are over-hiring, and giving out less hours to teachers.

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got job through a third party an agency called teach around. I wonder if they are getting a share of my salary like temping agencies do in the UK?


This agency is a business, and there must be a fee associated with it.

Have you been in contact with the HR Department at ILA, personally?
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roywebcafe



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: ILA in Ho Chi Minh City Reply with quote

I have not been in touch with the HR dept. If i am expected to pay a fee then will give this one a miss.

Mattingly wrote:
roywebcafe wrote:
Hi folks

Have been offered a teaching post with ILA in Ho Chi Minh City. Can anyone tell me what its like to work for them and what experiences you had? I am in UK and its along way to go to find out its a nightmare.


If you've been hired from the UK, I presume you have a BA/BS and Celta.

ILA likes to hire from overseas to keep the pay rates low, in my opinion. The school also likes fresh, young teachers, and has resources and workshops for the new teachers. Whatever they are doing and however they are doing it, it's working.

During the course of this year, less ILA teachers have been returning home because of the slow hiring and economic circumstances. Hiring has slowed at ILA and at other schools.

Many schools are over-hiring, and giving out less hours to teachers.

Quote:

got job through a third party an agency called teach around. I wonder if they are getting a share of my salary like temping agencies do in the UK?


This agency is a business, and there must be a fee associated with it.

Have you been in contact with the HR Department at ILA, personally?
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Phinaes Gage



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Teach Around's Website
http://www.teacharound.co.uk/vietnam.html

It says that there is no fee to the teacher, so if they are charging a fee they are most likely charging the school to find them teachers. It wouldn't make sense for a company to charge the teacher to apply to a school where it is pretty easy for a teacher to apply for free themself.
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Mattingly



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: ILA in Ho Chi Minh City Reply with quote

roywebcafe wrote:
I have not been in touch with the HR dept. If i am expected to pay a fee then will give this one a miss.


So....

You've been hired by ILA. But you haven't been in contact with the HR department that actually does the hiring?

Confused. Even if a 3rd party is involved. Why not apply directly? I heard they are not even hiring right now and posted that on the job ad section a month ago.
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thomas123



Joined: 10 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congatulations on the job offer ! I am not a teacher at ILA, but I did stop in at the ILA school in district 1 of Saigon. I met with someone in the front office there and discussed the CELTA course and hiring process.

It appears to be a very reputable school, among the best ESL schools in Vietnam. I don't think you'll have any problems.

The only issue is - will you like Vietnam? I've been there many times and really enjoy it. But I have met many tourists there from Europe who hate it and can't wait to catch the soonest flight out ....
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eihpos



Joined: 14 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I agree with thomas:
Make sure you want to come to Vietnam and that it will suit you mentally and physically. That`s more important. I work for ILA and my job is the least of my worries! It`s fine. PM me if you have any specifc questions.

It would also be better to go through HR here. They`re really nice and will answer questions honestly because they want teachers who know what they are committing themselves to.
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roywebcafe



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah made a mistake. Its not teacharound. sorry. its another provider called jobs4teachers. They are at [email protected] They have actually found something for me in Denmark but i am supposed to make a payment. don't know how much but won't bother finding out.

Phinaes Gage wrote:
From Teach Around's Website
http://www.teacharound.co.uk/vietnam.html

It says that there is no fee to the teacher, so if they are charging a fee they are most likely charging the school to find them teachers. It wouldn't make sense for a company to charge the teacher to apply to a school where it is pretty easy for a teacher to apply for free themself.
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blateson



Joined: 12 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"It appears to be a very reputable school..." No offense against the poster, and no comment about the school as I haven't worked there, but appearances are a regular phenomenon in Vietnam. Just remember that the way things appear and the way they are frequently are very different.
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indigorawa



Joined: 13 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ILA teaches CELTA and TEFL, for the most part to incoming college grads with no experience teaching. This allows them to profit more by using noobs (newbs; newbies) to teach classes as part of their practicum.

After a year, you will be drained, and ready for greener pastures. The world is what you make it, but ILA is a silly place, and their economic model is to take advantage of those green behind the ears and they have no inclination of providing career opportunities or advancement. Of course, anything is possible.
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