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JZer
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| She had excellent facilities, reasonable hours, accommodation and flights home a few times a year. Ok, maybe the KSA isn't everyone's ideal destination (it certainly wouldn't be mine) but if you had the qualifications a stint there would certainly enable you to pay off any debts or save up a hefty nest egg. |
Yes, as you can see I did not list KSA on my list of possible destinations. |
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bfrog
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| Only four years as an engineer, but luckily I didn't burn any bridges when I left. After five years as a teacher, I went back to the same engineering company. Reading that, it sounds duller than dull, but I am now working as an engineer in Germany and could do this job anywhere in the EU and further. I'm not saying I'm that good at engineering - it's not about me - but a lot of jobs other than teaching offer opportunities to live and work overseas. |
It sounds pretty awesome actually. You managed to take off for half a decade experiencing life in a way that few people, much less your coworkers, ever imagined. And then you came back and landed on both feet.
When I graduate next year I'll be 25 with about two years co-op experience. The grand plan is to find a job for 1-2 years to build up experience, connections, and money and then toss my hat into the TEFL ring. |
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Hod
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| Only four years as an engineer, but luckily I didn't burn any bridges when I left. After five years as a teacher, I went back to the same engineering company. Reading that, it sounds duller than dull, but I am now working as an engineer in Germany and could do this job anywhere in the EU and further. I'm not saying I'm that good at engineering - it's not about me - but a lot of jobs other than teaching offer opportunities to live and work overseas. |
It sounds pretty awesome actually. You managed to take off for half a decade experiencing life in a way that few people, much less your coworkers, ever imagined. And then you came back and landed on both.. |
Sorry, I meant the "going back to my old company" part sounded dull. But you are right about the half decade of experiences that most people never have. It takes balls to up sticks and live overseas. A lot of engineers I know, intelligent and mature people, just couldn�t make it abroad, even in tame places like Germany. You wouldn�t believe the stories. These people shouldn�t set foot outside their front door, let alone in a foreign land. Like most, if I had my time again, I�d change a lot of things. Saying that, I�d still escape from teaching, but I still would�ve done five years (maximum) TEFL for the experience. |
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JZer
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| Like most, if I had my time again, I�d change a lot of things. Saying that, I�d still escape from teaching, but I still would�ve done five years (maximum) TEFL for the experience. |
Do people really want to change things so much? I really don't think about changing the past. Maybe it is just my outlook on life. |
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johnslat
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Dear JZer,
I'm with you. I wouldn't change a thing. Why? Because I'm quite content with who I am today (though there's always room for improvement), and to change the past would change the present.
Regards,
John |
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JZer
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| JZer, my ex worked abroad a lot as a nurse, predominantly in the KSA. She pulled in a very good salary working there. She said that those with UK/USA training were getting about double her salary. |
Was your ex a Filipino? |
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Gringo Greg
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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Location: Everywhere and nowhere
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| The CNMI Public School System website. Human Resources link has jobby info. I did research on it all day--don't think it is for me, especially as I have contacts in Guam already, so if I go this route I'd go there. Anyway, thought I'd pass on the link. Good luck! Smile |
But I don't see where it says they will just hire someone with a B.A. to teach. I am willing to work on certification but would like a paying job while becoming certified. |
It says that on their job listings. Look at their job openings and see what it says.
I am in the CNMI right now. Trust me, they hire anyone with a BA. |
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JZer
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| So you got a job with only a B.A.? Furthermore what subject do you teach? How much do they pay? |
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Teacher in Rome
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Would just like to point out that state school kids in Italy don't seem to give their teachers that much praise and respect, so leave out Italy from your list of possible destinations if that's what you're after!
One of the things about Hod's story is that you can switch careers, but you need the right skills and experience for the job. So if Hod was a shit-hot engineer in a past career, he'll be able (economy permitting) to get a great engineering job now. Given that the economy is now so bad in so many places, having transferable skills isn't much of a draw for an employer who can take his / her pick of candidates with the exact match.
But for those looking to move out of teaching, you can always retrain, get voluntary experience etc, so all is not lost if you headed overseas as soon as you got your degree and now have nothing else but teaching experience under your belt. |
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Hod
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| if Hod was a shit-hot engineer in a past career, he'll be able (economy permitting) to get a great engineering job now. Given that the economy is now so bad in so many places, having transferable skills isn't much of a draw for an employer who can take his / her pick of candidates with the exact match |
Sorry and no disrespect, but I see nothing but two excuses here. I am far from being a great engineer now and never was. Anyone with any sort of previous career, however good or bad, can get out of the teaching trap if need be. And this so�called economic climate will affect teachers too you know (maybe even more than other professions, but that�s just speculation), so I can�t see how transferable skills is a bigger issue at the mo. |
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Teacher in Rome
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| I mean transferable skills in the way that a teacher going for a marketing post might say "I'm a good communicator, so I could be good at marketing". If you don't have marketing experience, then you'll find it hard to get a job in marketing. |
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bfrog
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| One of the things about Hod's story is that you can switch careers, but you need the right skills and experience for the job. So if Hod was a shit-hot engineer in a past |
The difference is that in his case it's not so much of a switch as simply going back to what he knew.
To the majority of employers, teaching experience has very little value outside of teaching, especially work experience abroad as others mentioned (doctors and engineers from India driving cabs). Then you're going to have to explain why you just up and left for several years.
So to get out of teaching, the best one can hope for is to start again from before first leaving. |
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