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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Usergroups Reply with quote

Look up and in blue writing next to member list and above Log out. There is something called user groups. This has been there since I joined and when you click on it the same message always comes up. Go on. Do it now. What does it say? Anyone care to take up the challange and change this?
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lozwich



Joined: 25 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Yeah, but how?? Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
Anyone care to take up the challange and change this?


I've clicked on this thingy before, and nothing has happened. So I tried again today and nothing continued to happen. What is a usergroup anyway? Isn't each one of the forums *technically* a usergroup?

So then I tried to set one up, ready to give it a witty and entertaining name, and I couldn't find any way to do so. Ho hum, back to work then I guess... Wink

Have a good day.

Lozwich.
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Lanza-Armonia



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
Posts: 525
Location: London, UK. Soon to be in Hamburg, Germany

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am now going to lose sleep over this one. Thank you AGAIN, dmb, for making my life a living hell Laughing Rolling Eyes Laughing Rolling Eyes

LA
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry LA. If you manage to sort it out you could call the user group. Living hell.
Mods, care to answer this one? What is it?
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 13859
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:09 pm    Post subject: User groups Reply with quote

Dear dmb,
Well, when all else fails, read the directions. I found this on the FAQ page:

What are Usergroups?
Usergroups are a way in which board administrators can group users. Each user can belong to several groups (this differs from most other boards) and each group can be assigned individual access rights. This makes it easy for administrators to set up several users as moderators of a forum, or to give them access to a private forum, etc.
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How do I join a Usergroup?
To join a usergroup click the usergroup link on the page header (dependent on template design) and you can then view all usergroups. Not all groups are open access -- some are closed and some may even have hidden memberships. If the board is open then you can request to join it by clicking the appropriate button. The user group moderator will need to approve your request; they may ask why you want to join the group. Please do not pester a group moderator if they turn your request down -- they will have their reasons.
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How do I become a Usergroup Moderator?
Usergroups are initially created by the board administrator who also assigns a board moderator. If you are interested in creating a usergroup then your first point of contact should be the administrator, so try dropping them a private message.
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though I'm not so sure that clears up much, if any, of the mystery.

Regards,
John
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would board administrators want to group users? How would they they group users? Which group would you be in?
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: Count me out Reply with quote

Dear dmb,
Probably none - I'm not much of a "joiner" type.
Regards,
Solitary John
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear John,
you joined Dave's. And like cream you have risen to the top.
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Getting creamed Reply with quote

Dear dmb,
Very nice of you to say so - but you know, cream isn't the ONLY thing that floats to the top.
Regards,
John
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bayabule



Joined: 05 Feb 2004
Posts: 82
Location: East Java Indonesia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Why would board administrators want to group users? How would they they group users?

Quote:
Please do not pester a group moderator if they turn your request down -- they will have their reasons.

It sounds a bit scary to me. Are there a whole load of other Dave's users out there on their own secret private forum? Reading our postings and talking about us? Who are they? Do they use funny handshakes?
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:41 pm    Post subject: Secret society Reply with quote

Dear bayabule,
You don't want to know, believe me. If I tell you, I'll have to kill you.
Regards,
A friend
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salmon



Joined: 03 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear John, This is my first posting and I would like to learn about Dave's etiquette about posting. Can you give me any advice ?
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bayabule



Joined: 05 Feb 2004
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Location: East Java Indonesia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dear bayabule,
You don't want to know, believe me. If I tell you, I'll have to kill you.
Regards,
A friend

Laughing Stoooop! You're going to give me nightmares!
Hi Salmon,
Interesting you chose this thread to join in. Are you infiltrating from a secret usergroup?
Just kidding! Welcome. I only started a few weeks ago, and I think us newcomers just have to learn the hard way about etiquette. I was terrified at first. Don't worry about it, but religious rantings are best left to the regulars until you feel confident enough contribute if you wish. I'm glad I finally got up the courage to join in, it's been very entertaining.
Enjoy!
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear salmon,

Well, this pretty much says it all:

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But, if you're like me, you probably didn't give it much of a read when you signed up. Some of the terms - "vulgar" and "objectionable language" for example - are pretty subjective (as you may have noticed, there's a current thread dealing with "farting in the classroom", which, I guess, some might consider "vulgar"). I suppose the best suggestions I could make are:

1. Try to maintain a polite and considerate tone - even, or especially, when another poster's posting may rile you.
2. Make use of the "Preview" button a lot, at least at first.
3. If something gets you REALLY angry, wait a while and cool off a bit before replying.
4. Always remember - everyone's going to read your postings. You CAN use the Personal Message (PM) function to communicate privately with individual posters.
5. The moderators (usually, I think) will give you a warning if one of your postings "goes over the line" (I've received one).

So, welcome aboard. Bayabule offered some good advice: "Don't worry about it". Just jump on in.
Regards,
John
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Will.



Joined: 02 May 2003
Posts: 783
Location: London Uk

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Salmon,
Welcome aboard.
To echo the others. and add a little
take it all with a pinch of salt, don't get too serious about a negative or non-response to your posts. like life posters can be nice and nasty and at times downright mean. generally speaking most of the posters are pretty good at taking the p**s and not losing their cool.
When they do, keep quiet and watch the sparks fly, see just what gets by the mods and what doesn't.
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