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JZer



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Transfering Money Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me the current rules regarding transferring money out of China?

Can one transfer 100 percent of their salary out of China?
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if there's an absolute, but generally it's been established on this board that 70% exchange of your salary seems to be the maximum and ALL of that can be transferred if you like.
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JGC458



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if you have a TRUSTED Chinese colleague/friend they could probably transfer the whole lot.

Btw, you noticed I capped the word "trusted"...?
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eddy-cool



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would you survive for a whole month if youtransferred your entire salary out of China?
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JZer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How would you survive for a whole month if youtransferred your entire salary out of China?


Maybe the point is that some people make enough to pay their expenses from other means.
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sharpe88



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could withdraw cash from the foreign bank via ATM.

Service charge every time.. but I guess this way avoids the tax man ?

eddy-cool wrote:
How would you survive for a whole month if youtransferred your entire salary out of China?
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JZer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone here transfer 100 percent of their entire legal salary?
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JGC458



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
Does anyone here transfer 100 percent of their entire legal salary?


I'm not sure how that information will help you, but I suppose you must have your reasons for asking.

And just to recap:

kev7161 gave you the legal answer to your original question, "Can one transfer 100 percent of their salary out of China?":

kev7161 wrote:
generally it's been established on this board that 70% exchange of your salary seems to be the maximum and ALL of that can be transferred if you like


Then I added a way to get around that max 70% rule:

JGC458 wrote:
But if you have a TRUSTED Chinese colleague/friend they could probably transfer the whole lot


Then eddy-cool pointed out:

eddy-cool wrote:
How would you survive for a whole month if youtransferred your entire salary out of China?


To which you replied:

JZer wrote:
Maybe the point is that some people make enough to pay their expenses from other means.


[Then sharpe88 replied to eddy-cool's query]
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course. If I moved from Taiwan to China, I would hope to transfer 7000RMB a month out of China.
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JGC458



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
Of course. If I moved from Taiwan to China, I would hope to transfer 7000RMB a month out of China.


Umm?...No problem, if you earn 10,000RMB...or have a Chinese friend...
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earning 10,000 should be the easy part. Doing it under a legal contract is the difficult part!
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dialogger



Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall previous threads on this topic.
The 70 percent sounds right but the catch (and isn't there always one) is that it is 70 percent of an average salary. So if the average salary for say a uni teacher is 4500RMB pm then you can send 3150 home.
If you earn 6000RMB as per your contract you may still have a 3150 cap.
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crunchyone



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could just fly out of the country once a year with a large pile of cash. I am not sure what the departure rules are, but most countries put a USD$10,000 declaration on the immi card...

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JZer



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You could just fly out of the country once a year with a large pile of cash. I am not sure what the departure rules are, but most countries put a USD$10,000 declaration on the immi card...


Or you could take a flight or train to Hong Kong. The only problem is that besides Hong Kong and Taiwan you are likely to lose a lot of money trading RMB since China does not sell RMB to certain countries and or it is not openly traded in those countries.
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dialogger



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Crunchy's idea although it does raise security issues. But as long as you bank it as soon you can you avoid exposure.

Does anyone recall what the declaration requires when leaving China?
I've never been patted down, although any reasonable sum in 100 Red 100RMB notes would be pretty bulky and I wouldn't fancy standing there at the exit airport while the money is counted.

If I was going via HongKong I might be tempted to convert it there but would worry about the rate.
If I tote Chinese banknotes next time, I'll check what the bank at home is buying them for and compare the rate with the HK airport rate.

With all methods the trick is to avoid multiple conversions ie from RMB to US to AUD for example.
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