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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Jones wrote:
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There is lots of background music playing in malls, gyms, and restaurants here, at least in Jeddah and Dhahran/Khobar
One of the great advantages of living in Saudi is the fact that there is almost no muzak. I've lived in Eastern Province for years and I have scarcely heard any.

Couldn�t agree more! Here in Spain it�s obligatory to endure other people�s favourite music in the bank, the taxi and umpteen other places.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and there some of your colleagues who will raise the issue at staff meetings. Not so much to put it up for debate, but to declare that "music has no place in the classroom".


A friend of mine (a practicing Muslim) teaches gym at a girls' college. For months she struggled to be allowed to use music for the girls to exercise to - she finally manged to convince the powers that be by promising to switch off the music during prayer times and not to use it at all if even a single girl protested (none ever did).

Which was all fine with everyone, until a colleague stepped in.....
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Jones wrote:
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There is lots of background music playing in malls, gyms, and restaurants here, at least in Jeddah and Dhahran/Khobar
One of the great advantages of living in Saudi is the fact that there is almost no muzak. I've lived in Eastern Province for years and I have scarcely heard any.


About the EP, that was second hand knowledge, so I don't know how true it is. But in Jeddah, where I have lived for years, there is music playing in almost all fancy/posh/fusion cafes and sit-down restaurants, and I doubt the EP is much different with regards to such places. Heck, even at Applebee's, Chili's, TGIF, and other such places there is lots of Britney to be heard, and those places are far from fancy or posh. One place called "Black Rose" is mostly black inside with very dim ceiling lighting and candles on each table, and some very interesting Gothic chanting style music! It is quite expensive (3-course meal from SR. 150 to SR. 200), and popular with couples.

And taxis are the worst. All the Pakistani drivers (75% of all taxi drivers) have their own tapes playing, and the handful of Arab drivers have their own tapes playing. That's why I have my iPod and earphones on me all the time.

Gold's Gym has techno blasting over the main open gym area, with multi-colored bulbs shining from rotating balls from the ceiling, like in discos.
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tillymd



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Unbroken chain Reply with quote

What if you were dancing around your apartment in your favorite tutu, cranking the grateful dead, do you think the V squared squad would intervene?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Der tillymd,
Alas, I'm afraid that, were you dancing in your favorite tutu, even if you were dancing with Bishop Desmond Tutu, even if you were dancing to "Tutu" by Miles Davis, the SPV squared squad would find it too, too immodest.
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John
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Green Acres



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would the Beatles, "Yellow Submarine" be acceptable? I suppose the idea is to prevent any of the western stuff to permeate through. Must be hard to teach there, without using the classic movies and songs of English culture.

Perhaps reruns of Hogan's heroes...

I'm at a loss, since the use of movies, shows, and music has been a large part of my homework repertoire. What will they do with the baby?
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suppose the idea is to prevent any of the western stuff to permeate through.


Actually no, not really.

A very strict interpretation of Islam frowns on all types of music, whether 'Western' or not. I have known a (very) few people who have said they will not go to Saudi wedding parties as there would be (decidedly "non-Western) music there.

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Must be hard to teach there, without using the classic movies and songs of English culture.


It's not hard at all.
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tillymd



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Music to sooth the soul. Reply with quote

Can you get Sirius Satellite radio?
What kind of musical instruments are played in the ME?

I need to plan the accompaniment for the opening night of the show Very Happy
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No... the sirius/xm satellites only cover most of North America. I'm not sure if you are able to stream it online over there. Perhaps with a proxy server?

VS
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear tillymd,
As you're beginning to realize, when you're in the Kingdom, you're not in Kansas anymore.
(Although, considering the many "fundamentalists" I knew in Kansas, maybe it's not so different.)
Regards,
John
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tillymd



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Bad Hair Day Reply with quote

Living on the Texas compound for a couple of weeks might prepare someone for the KSA. I already have the swirley hair style down....
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there is no "Texas" Compound in Riyadh, but there is (or was) an Arizona Compound there...and a Yamama, a Yamama II, a Jadawel (since bombed), an O-3 (since renamed), a B-2 (since renamed and bombed), an al-Hamra (since bombed), an Eid, a Seder, an Arabian Homes, an Asasco...and the beat goes on, an' on, an' on, an' on...

NCTBA
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear NCTBA,
Maybe the "Texas compound" referred to was in Waco.
Regards,
John
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm...could be! Shocked BTW, is it pronounced "Wayco" or "Whakko". 'Memper dis, it's not too far from Crawford, TX...our beloved former president's former home! Rolling Eyes

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear NCTBA,
It's pronounced "Wayco"; it IS "Whacko."

" . . . it's not too far from Crawford, TX...our beloved former president's former home."

And some people think there's no such thing as coincidence.

Regards,
John
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