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alohahapa
Joined: 22 May 2009
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 Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: Info on Trinity TESOL course |
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Hi,
I heard there is a Trinity TESOL course offered in Hong Kong.
Has anyone taken the course?
Were accommodations included with the fees?
Can anyone please give me any opinion/information or their experiences?
Your help and advice would be really appreciated. |
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oxi
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alohahapa
Joined: 22 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks,
Yes, I already looked at the website.
Wow...25,000 HK dollars for a teaching certificate....that is kind of pricey.
And there are no accommodations included and no job placement too.
Not too mention trainees probably have buy their own meals everyday.
I think I'll take the advice of the another teacher who said he took the TEFL course in Zhuhai which was around 1,500 US dollars.
They provided accommodations and all of the above. And I believe he got hired by GLV language school in Zhuhai. |
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once again
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| The course offered by Trinity is regarded as on a par with the CELTA, and the two are considered the best of the short certificate courses. |
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alohahapa
Joined: 22 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: |
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yes, sounds good, I would choose this TESOL course too.
But I rather go with the CELTA course, because it cost half as much and some places probably provide accommodations too.
But why is this TESOL course so expensive?
Is it really expensive to live in Hong Kong?
Did anyone out there graduated from this course in Hong Kong?
I would like to hear some of your experiences.
Thank you |
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oxi
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| alohahapa wrote: |
yes, sounds good, I would choose this TESOL course too.
But I rather go with the CELTA course, because it cost half as much and some places probably provide accommodations too.
But why is this TESOL course so expensive?
Is it really expensive to live in Hong Kong?
Did anyone out there graduated from this course in Hong Kong?
I would like to hear some of your experiences.
Thank you |
I'd say the Trinity TESOL and the CELTA are the best introductory ones. Certainly they're the most well-recognised, whatever anyone thinks of their quality, and that's why they're the most expensive. If you google around, they tend to be similarly priced, wherever you want to do them. Now, I do say that, whilst being too lazy to actually google around - I tried just the one - http://www.cactustefl.com/ - and they seemed to vary around �900 - 1000, ie HK$12500.
So the one at HK$25000 seems way over the norm. I've no idea why. It is a bit expensive to live in Hong Kong - perhaps they're helping with accommodation - but I didn't see that on the site.
Sorry for being annoying, and I'm not trying to have a dig at you, but some of the errors you make ('I rather go', 'it cost', 'accommodations', 'Did anyone out there graduated') suggest you're not a native speaker - that will affect your chances of getting on them. |
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once again
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:56 am Post subject: |
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5. Usually, accommodations.
a. lodging.
b. food and lodging.
c. a seat, berth, or other facilities for a passenger on a train, plane, etc.
Accommodations seems fine according to dictionary.com |
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oxi
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| once again wrote: |
5. Usually, accommodations.
a. lodging.
b. food and lodging.
c. a seat, berth, or other facilities for a passenger on a train, plane, etc.
Accommodations seems fine according to dictionary.com |
Fair enough then - I'm quite happy to get my pomposity corrected here! I thought it had to be considered uncountable. Sorry OP |
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Romance in Durango
Joined: 06 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| alohahapa wrote: |
Wow...25,000 HK dollars for a teaching certificate....that is kind of pricey.
And there are no accommodations included and no job placement too.
Not too mention trainees probably have buy their own meals everyday.
I think I'll take the advice of the another teacher who said he took the TEFL course in Zhuhai which was around 1,500 US dollars.
They provided accommodations and all of the above. And I believe he got hired by GLV language school in Zhuhai. |
Then go to China and get your certificate there! Of course, one is immediately forced to wonder why everyone does not do this, but, at the end of the day, it is up to you.
Anyway, first, I am not entirely sure that a TEFL certificate can be considered a "teaching certificate"; it certainly does not allow one to teach in the government system of their home state. Second, I do not think HK$25,000 is at all "pricey"; indeed, I think it is a snip. After all, I think you only have to take the course the once; it is not as if you have to re-do it every year or anything. Most people in HK worth their salt are on anywhere between HK$30,000 and HK$60,000 a month � so the cost of that TEFL certificate is considerably less than a single month's salary. Furthermore, if you assume that you would work for, say, twenty years after completing the certificate then it most likely works out at around a few dollars a day, if that.
Also, why should � and where would � they accommodate you? There is not exactly an abundance of room/land in HK. Do you think they have an apartment block just sitting there which they allow trainees to live in whilst doing the course? Depending on location and a myriad of other factors flats in HK can cost anywhere between HK$8,000 and HK$80,000 a month. If they really had such a block of flats why would they not rent them out to tenants or sell the block/land to property developers? Do you really think a business would � or could � choose to lose that potential revenue? Why can you not simply do what everyone else presumably does, i.e., stay in a hotel � or, if for some reason you are on a backpacker's budget, a hostel � for the duration of the course? That seems like a simple enough solution to me.
Regarding job placement, again, where would they 'place' you? That is, who in HK would want to employ someone who had only just completed their TEFL certificate? The same with food/meals, why would they want to feed you? Surely as an adult you should be expected to take care of your own basic essentials such as accommodation and food?
As to the Zhuhai option, personally I would be wary of completing a TEFL certificate in a non-English-speaking country, especially China. Scams and fake certificates abound there, and it is quite unlikely that the 'trainers' are much cop. Prospective employers may well look down upon a certificate obtained there, and most will certainly see it for what it is: a certificate for those who do not have the wherewithal to complete a proper certificate in an English-speaking land. |
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oxi
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| Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| Romance in Durango wrote: |
| alohahapa wrote: |
Wow...25,000 HK dollars for a teaching certificate....that is kind of pricey.
And there are no accommodations included and no job placement too.
Not too mention trainees probably have buy their own meals everyday.
I think I'll take the advice of the another teacher who said he took the TEFL course in Zhuhai which was around 1,500 US dollars.
They provided accommodations and all of the above. And I believe he got hired by GLV language school in Zhuhai. |
Then go to China and get your certificate there! |
1500US$ is about 900UK�. I already said that's about average for the CELTA and Trinity. Not so bad.
Romance in Durango - let us all know if you have any advice on accommodation in Chungking or the difference between degrees from Scotland and England. I've a feeling you might believe you have extensive knowledge... |
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marksy
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Welcome back Tinseltown Rebellion!
This board goes very quiet when you're not posting. Although I disagree with much of what you say, sometimes you give some insights into life in HK, albeit from a slightly warped and amusing point of view.
If you've been allowed back, does this mean marcoregano will be posting again soon? I certainly hope so. He is a veritable goldmine of info for newbies to Hong Kong, and a badly needed antidote to TR's occasional venom. As most HK posters will know, marco is able to tell it like it is - he's the Dave's ESL cafe equivalent of Anson Chan, Hong Kong's conscience.
By the way marco, I'm wondering if you're really an editor, as TR suggests? From your posts, you sound more like an A.T. (You better look that one up, Durango). Or have I got that wrong?
Looking forward to seeing you post soon, marco.
Cheers,
Marksy |
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A'Moo
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I, for one, find Bogeys posts to be witty and truthful...
Marcos posts seem to be for those whose reading habits tend to be along the lines of the "Chicken soup for the soul" series (which seem to permeate many of the Mainlands coffee shops)...I dont find them objectionable...And some of his info is informative...So I say, bring them both back!!! |
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once again
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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| Many things that Bogey pronounced upon turned out not to be true. You should check over the previous postings to see. Info on tax rates etc. etc. was simply wrong. |
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TeachyTeach
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I attended the course in 2008 and will not have a bad word said about it.
Yes it is more expensive than other courses in the region, but the quality of tuition was first class. I was very fortunate to be in a good group of students, 12 in all, only one of whom was not worth the time of day.
Focusing on the course material and tuition itself, it was relevant, well presented, and well revised over the duration of the course. Real effort was made to accomodate everyone's learning styles, with group discussion and presentation of themes encouraged daily. I found it to be incredibly helpful when I actually got my first teaching jobs. I have no idea how I would have coped in a classroom otherwise, without knowledge of concept checking, control of voice (a problem area for me!), presentation of work on whiteboards, development of materials etc etc etc.
If you've got the money, and are keen on this course, I would only encourage you to go on it. |
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Geevee
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| Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:58 am Post subject: Trinity TESOL from EFA |
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I've heard that getting onto the course in EFA, HK for the Trinity CertTESOL is really difficult. The interviews, I've heard, are really tough. All this is hearsay though - so I don't really know what to believe and what not to right now.
I've just submitted my written assignments to EFA last week. Have not heard from them since.
Teachy Teach - you said you've completed your TESOL from EFA. Could you shed some light ?
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