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buildbyflying



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Location: On your right. No, your other right.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

things to note:
-nannies in saudi have one rule. do not upset the children. If this means spoiling them rotten, that takes preference over your instructions. It correlates to a certain cultural rule here that states, tell everyone exactly what they want o hear (regardless of its truth).
-stir crazy is an understatement. Try this. lock your family in the house for a month without even a window to see outside. See what happens. If you've found it unbearable oafter three days, imagine 362 more of them.
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ This person speaks the truth!
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your housing in Hail should place you next to the countryside. Check out before you accept. Your hours should leave you plenty of time to take the kids on walks to the countryside around.
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Marquess



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad

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zanoubia



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much every one, I appreciate your advice.

I had a clear idea about the palce


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cassava



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zanoubia:

I hope that you do not rush into a hasty decision, pro or con, regarding the job offer made by the University of Hail. First of all, you should know that in Hail you will likely be living at the compound called Mishar 1.

I have noticed that your comments about going for walks have elicited various responses. Stephen Jones is quite correct when he says that your residence places you close to the countryside. In fact, once you go through the main gate of the compound, you continue for a few meters then turn left on the main road. After about fifty meters, you will see the path leading to the desert.

Here, you will discover a wonderful area where you and your family can walk to your heart's content. Sometimes you will see a few tents where Saudi families are having picnics and children are playing football. A couple curious camels might come wandering by. Don't worry about the odd stray dog that might bark at you. A few well-aimed stones thrown in his direction will send him packing. In addition, the air is fresh and clean and you won't be breathing the kind of polluted mess that one encounters in places like downtown Toronto or Los Angeles. What I have stated is the basic scenario. If you don't like it , don't go.

The suggestion made by Marquess that you and your family will be physically and psychologically abused in various ways as you go for your walks is nothing but highly exaggerated nonsense. The people in areas of Saudi Arabia like Hail, Tabuk and Taif are usually unfailingly gracious and polite. At any rate, that was what I experienced when I lived in that part of the world many years ago. The notion that you are likely to suffer unduly from the heat is largely drivel. Anyone going for a walk would presumably have enough sense to do it in the early morning or late afternoon. In any case, if you do go to Saudi, you will discover that most Saudis think that Hail has the most moderate temperatures in the country.

Finally, perfection does not exist anywhere and there are a lot of places in Saudi Arabia which are a lot worse than Hail. It is up to you to consider the facts from as wide a variety of sources as possible, assess them in a rational manner and then arrive at the decision that is most advantageous to you and your family.
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zanoubia



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Cassava,

Thank you for the comprehensive description, I will certainly take it into consideration.
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R-na



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: About Hail university Reply with quote

Hi everybody,

I have questions about Hail and its university as well.
My husband is considering the work with the university. Since some time he has been studying the map of Hail on Wikimapia. So far he has found a tiny university campus to the South-East of the city, opposite the industrial area. Is this where the administration sits? He hasn�t found any departments yet. If we consider the Tower (Bourge) to be the city centre, where (in which direction) should one look for the engineering department?
About compounds: Cassava mentioned about one of them Mishar1. The other one is Mishar2? (MyTrunkshow wrote that there were two compounds in the city). In which one the staff of the engineering department gets places?

Thank you.
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cassava



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R-na:

At the University of Hail, housing is allocated primarily on the basis of the size of your family and the kind of residence that is required. As far as I know, the department in which one works is not a factor. Mishar 1, Mishar 2, and a couple apartment buildings are used for this purpose.

I have not been to the Hail region for some time, but I think the Engineering Department is administered from the central University campus. The University is in the process of expansion, so recent modifications might have been made.
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R-na



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject: About Hail university Reply with quote

Dear Cassava,
Thank you, very much.
What kind of housing is allocated for singles? Are they always given a separate apartment or there is possibility of two sharing one apartment?
How much does the university housing cost (both single and family)?

R-na
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Housing is provided free in this and most other jobs in KSA.
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cassava



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: About Hail university Reply with quote

R-na wrote:

What kind of housing is allocated for singles? Are they always given a separate apartment or there is possibility of two sharing one apartment?
How much does the university housing cost (both single and family)?

R-na


A single person is provided with his/her own apartment. S/he is responsible for the contents and is expected to follow any regulations regarding their usage. Scot 47 has correctly pointed out that accommodation is free.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about the utilities - electricity, water, etc.? Are they the tenet's financial responsibility at Hail U??
In my experience, they often/usually are.
Regards,
John
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cassava



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
How about the utilities - electricity, water, etc.? Are they the tenet's financial responsibility at Hail U??
In my experience, they often/usually are.
Regards,
John


The instructors at the University of Hail are not required to pay for utilities such as electricity and water. This has never been the case, to the best of my knowledge, In fact, if such a scheme were ever proposed and implemented, I suspect that many teachers would quit.

Educational institutions that are located in remote areas such as Hail region need to be able to attract instructors by offering them whatever inducements they can.
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Marquess



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

utilities are for nothing-nothing to do with remote areas
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