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| Are you "qualified" to teach EFL |
| Yes, I have a TESL/TEFL/TESOL certificate |
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| Yes, I have a Bachelor's and a TESL/TEFL/TESOL certificate |
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| Yes, I have a Master's in a related field but no certificate |
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| Yes, I have a Master's in TESOL/Applied Linguistics |
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| Yes, I have a PhD in TESOL/Applied Linguistics |
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| Yes, other (please explain) |
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| No, but I have a lot of enthusiasm |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| denise wrote: |
Why the antagonism? In what other fields do people without little bits of paper (a.k.a. degrees) belittle people with little bits of paper?
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I hear the computer field is. |
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gugelhupf
Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Jabotabek
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Definitely in the "yes, other" camp. BSc and PhD in unrelated subjects and TESOL cert. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Qualified to teach? So only having a BS degree, thogh I have three, I am not qualified to teach? I was in the 99%tile on my GRE's, but I am not qualified? A person with a TEFL certificate is more qualified then me, though I have taught for 9 years, taken many writeing readin, lit courses, have a teaching cert that's not TEFL, etc> |
3 Bs degrees? Wow! |
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bayabule
Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 82 Location: East Java Indonesia
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Yes, other (please explain) MA French, CELTA, almost 5 yrs experience.
I notice the "other" choice is rivalling the more conventional "BA + TESOL" one.
It just goes to show that there are so many different ways to get into teaching it's impossible to categorise them all. And almost as pointless to argue about it!
Interesting thread. Thanks John and Rhonda for taking the plunge. |
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Capergirl

Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 1232 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I have a BA (English major, French minor) and a TESL certificate. I'm also working on a certificate in Adult Education. In the future, I want to get my MA TESOL (time and money are lacking right now but desire is not). Oh yeah, and I also have a diploma in microcomputer programs (helps a bit with the CALL classes) and a certificate in "francais fonctionnel" (I was bilingual once upon a time).  |
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Lynn

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 696 Location: in between
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:59 am Post subject: |
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BA: Asian Studies-Japan
TESL Certificate
American citizen
received education in the USA and one year in Japan
no state teaching license; therefore not qualified to teach for BOE. can't even substitute teach. |
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:07 am Post subject: |
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I'm now trying to finish my BA, which I started in 1984 (English & Renaissance Studies.)
I have three and a half years in Cambodia, which I count as an informal MA in real life.
I used to live with PhD students. Every day brought a new dispute. Snore.
I have a Celta.
I finished a course in Adult Education last year, as part of my BA. I recommend Adult Ed for everyone.
Now, back to that psychology text. G-d help us.
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Hey Slat, I wansn't really P.O'ed. It's just that you have worked so hard at keeping your head in the trenches, this is the first legit shot I've had at you. Did I nick you? Even a little scratch?
Actually, I have a teaching cert, but at the time it was for teaching, not teaching "TESOL/TESL/TEFL).
I had taught Statistics as a TA in my uni when I was doing the grad nonsense, I had taught Airman Leadership School for the Air Force (a mini five week college, 8 hours a day)
But the experience that helped me most was my first teaching experience, as a CPR Instructor. It was the firest time that I learned I could teach, . At first I was bad, because I really didn't know my stuff. I was not a good teacher. I feared teaching, but the Air Force needed me to, and doing classes in the civilian sector as well looked good on the resume at the time.As I gained greater mastery of my skills, and learned to understand the need of the students, I became a very good instructor. And I began to enjoy teaching very much. But by paper, when I stunk, i was just as qualified as when I was very good)
To me, there are no degrees of qualification. Eother you are qualified or not. Being qualified doesn't make you good. For China, I would consider a BA to be the qualification. Maybe for the Middle East, a MA, or a BA with years docimented experience.
I hope the TESOL certificates go the way of the dodo bird. I do not think CELTA helps you teach in CHina (don't know other countries) Any experiences give you confidence, which you need. (Or, you at least need to learn how to fake confidence
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Lanza-Armonia

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 525 Location: London, UK. Soon to be in Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Through so similarly strange threads, I will stat me case once again. High school leaver, TEFL cert.... and a lot of common sense. Congrats to all those who done Uni but to tell you guys the truth. I can't be fecked!!!
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