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Are you "qualified" to teach EFL
Yes, I have a TESL/TEFL/TESOL certificate
9%
 9%  [ 4 ]
Yes, I have a Bachelor's and a TESL/TEFL/TESOL certificate
43%
 43%  [ 19 ]
Yes, I have a Master's in a related field but no certificate
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Yes, I have a Master's in TESOL/Applied Linguistics
13%
 13%  [ 6 ]
Yes, I have a PhD in TESOL/Applied Linguistics
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Yes, other (please explain)
25%
 25%  [ 11 ]
No, but I have a lot of enthusiasm
6%
 6%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 44

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guest of Japan



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Posts: 1601
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denise wrote:
Why the antagonism? In what other fields do people without little bits of paper (a.k.a. degrees) belittle people with little bits of paper?


d


I hear the computer field is.
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gugelhupf



Joined: 24 Jan 2004
Posts: 575
Location: Jabotabek

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely in the "yes, other" camp. BSc and PhD in unrelated subjects and TESOL cert.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arioch36 wrote:
Qualified to teach? So only having a BS degree, thogh I have three, I am not qualified to teach? I was in the 99%tile on my GRE's, but I am not qualified? A person with a TEFL certificate is more qualified then me, though I have taught for 9 years, taken many writeing readin, lit courses, have a teaching cert that's not TEFL, etc>


3 Bs degrees? Wow!
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bayabule



Joined: 05 Feb 2004
Posts: 82
Location: East Java Indonesia

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, other (please explain) MA French, CELTA, almost 5 yrs experience.
I notice the "other" choice is rivalling the more conventional "BA + TESOL" one.
It just goes to show that there are so many different ways to get into teaching it's impossible to categorise them all. And almost as pointless to argue about it!
Interesting thread. Thanks John and Rhonda for taking the plunge.
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Capergirl



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Posts: 1232
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a BA (English major, French minor) and a TESL certificate. I'm also working on a certificate in Adult Education. In the future, I want to get my MA TESOL (time and money are lacking right now but desire is not). Oh yeah, and I also have a diploma in microcomputer programs (helps a bit with the CALL classes) and a certificate in "francais fonctionnel" (I was bilingual once upon a time). Razz
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Lynn



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BA: Asian Studies-Japan
TESL Certificate
American citizen
received education in the USA and one year in Japan

no state teaching license; therefore not qualified to teach for BOE. can't even substitute teach.
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khmerhit



Joined: 31 May 2003
Posts: 1874
Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm now trying to finish my BA, which I started in 1984 (English & Renaissance Studies.)

I have three and a half years in Cambodia, which I count as an informal MA in real life.

I used to live with PhD students. Every day brought a new dispute. Snore.

I have a Celta.

I finished a course in Adult Education last year, as part of my BA. I recommend Adult Ed for everyone.

Now, back to that psychology text. G-d help us.

khmerhit
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arioch36



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Slat, I wansn't really P.O'ed. It's just that you have worked so hard at keeping your head in the trenches, this is the first legit shot I've had at you. Did I nick you? Even a little scratch?

Actually, I have a teaching cert, but at the time it was for teaching, not teaching "TESOL/TESL/TEFL).

I had taught Statistics as a TA in my uni when I was doing the grad nonsense, I had taught Airman Leadership School for the Air Force (a mini five week college, 8 hours a day)

But the experience that helped me most was my first teaching experience, as a CPR Instructor. It was the firest time that I learned I could teach, . At first I was bad, because I really didn't know my stuff. I was not a good teacher. I feared teaching, but the Air Force needed me to, and doing classes in the civilian sector as well looked good on the resume at the time.As I gained greater mastery of my skills, and learned to understand the need of the students, I became a very good instructor. And I began to enjoy teaching very much. But by paper, when I stunk, i was just as qualified as when I was very good)

To me, there are no degrees of qualification. Eother you are qualified or not. Being qualified doesn't make you good. For China, I would consider a BA to be the qualification. Maybe for the Middle East, a MA, or a BA with years docimented experience.

I hope the TESOL certificates go the way of the dodo bird. I do not think CELTA helps you teach in CHina (don't know other countries) Any experiences give you confidence, which you need. (Or, you at least need to learn how to fake confidence

Chris in Henan
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Lanza-Armonia



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
Posts: 525
Location: London, UK. Soon to be in Hamburg, Germany

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Through so similarly strange threads, I will stat me case once again. High school leaver, TEFL cert.... and a lot of common sense. Congrats to all those who done Uni but to tell you guys the truth. I can't be fecked!!!

LA
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