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What do people do after retiring from ESL teaching?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would this be the quote:

"'That was getting really nerve-wracking because no one could find Harry Potter anywhere!' says Rowling. 'They had cast Ron and Hermione, and I was getting more nervous because I thought if they don't find an English Harry, what are they gonna do? They've got to find a Harry somewhere, and maybe they'll go to American. They never did see an American actor, but I was nervous. Because my characters are British, I didn't want the Dick Van Dyke situation. You see Mary Poppins, and Dick Van Dyke Is playing the world's only Australian Cockney. I was dreading that would happen.'"


http://www.mania.com/harry-potter-sorcerers-stone-film-preview_article_26089.html

It kind of sounds as though she didn't have much, if any, control over casting.

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John
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it was a bit more blunt than that, but I see both your and her point, which is well-reasoned to anybody who's endured the torture that Dick van Dyke put us all through.

I doubt that they had valuable accent/dialogue coaches back then. It is said that Polish people of German descent couldn't distinguish Meryl Streep's accent from a native in "Sophie's Choice".

Even the quote that you have found, John, does not meet with the reality of the day.

And, I doubt, VERY seriously, considering the success of the books that she'd already written that she had little to so with the production of the movies.

NCTBA
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ESL Hobo



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Option 1
THE WORLD OF SUSIE WONG with William Holden and Nancy Kwan
Has been a classic favorite of mine. I wouldn't mind having a go at the lifestyle William Holden portrayed.

Option 2
Play guitar with a singing dog dressed in a clown outfit on La Ramblas in Barcelona, sipping Cava, eating Tappas, and living in a "pension" in the gothic quarter.

Option 3
Find a south pacific island where I can live in a shack and afford to live on teaching a few private classes until the day I keel over.

Come to think of it, I may do all three options in that order Laughing
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
Naw, I was speaking to the quote by her when they were doing casting calls for the Harry Potter character if she would consider an American playing the part. Her response, and I'm paraphrasing here as it has been years and years was something like" "An American could never play a proper British boy".

NCTBA


I remember that, but I can't remember exactly what she said, either, but I'm about 99.999% sure it wasn't worded in such an anti-American sort of way. And actually, I don't think a North American could have played Harry Potter either. The lines would have sounded ridiculous coming out in a North American accent and a fake accent would have made people cringe.

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The fact that she is Scottish was even more infuriating.


Why's that? Scottish people are British.

And besides, she's not Scottish, she's English. She's not even from Northern England, which would have at least been near Scotland. She's from Gloucestershire in the South West, and then did her undergraduate degree at Exeter, again in the South West of England.

She moved to Scotland after having already completed school, worked for Amnesty International in London as a bilinguial secretary, and taught English in Portugal (where she had already started work on the the story idea for Harry Potter). She moved to Scotland with a baby after a divorce in Portugal to be near her sister.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Never Ceased To Be Amazed wrote:
Naw, I was speaking to the quote by her when they were doing casting calls for the Harry Potter character if she would consider an American playing the part. Her response, and I'm paraphrasing here as it has been years and years was something like" "An American could never play a proper British boy".

NCTBA


I remember that, but I can't remember exactly what she said, either, but I'm about 99.999% sure it wasn't worded in such an anti-American sort of way. And actually, I don't think a North American could have played Harry Potter either. The lines would have sounded ridiculous coming out in a North American accent and a fake accent would have made people cringe.

You must have not closely read my response to John in which agreed that having something as horrid as Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins. My point was that with dialogue and accent coaches available, I think that nationality has nothing to do with it. How small a world it is if it does! It's drivel that a British or New Zealand national cannot come genuinely across as an American...is not the opposite also true?

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The fact that she is Scottish was even more infuriating.


Why's that? Scottish people are British.

You're absolutely right. I was wrong. Scots are British. I keep hearing my old Scottish boss pissing and moaning in my ear about "the English". He was elated when Scotland "devolved" whatever the hell that means...

And besides, she's not Scottish, she's English. She's not even from Northern England, which would have at least been near Scotland. She's from Gloucestershire in the South West, and then did her undergraduate degree at Exeter, again in the South West of England.

She moved to Scotland after having already completed school, worked for Amnesty International in London as a bilinguial secretary, and taught English in Portugal (where she had already started work on the the story idea for Harry Potter). She moved to Scotland with a baby after a divorce in Portugal to be near her sister.

I'll take you at your word. You obviously know more about her and have followed her career moves. It was always related to me that she was Scottish and me, not being interested, accepted it. That beng said, her nationality was not my issue, what my issue was and is is her dismissive attitude that an American boy couldn't play Harry Potter...a figment of her imagination.




NCTBA

BTW: Have you and Glenski made nice nice with each other yet?
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thinktank



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope fully have enough to retire somewhere warm, i think most people from the nort would give a kidney for that.
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denise



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thinktank wrote:
Hope fully have enough to retire somewhere warm, i think most people from the nort would give a kidney for that.


After nearly three years in Oman, with two more still ahead of me, I might look into retiring somewhere bitterly cold! Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denise wrote:
thinktank wrote:
Hope fully have enough to retire somewhere warm, i think most people from the nort would give a kidney for that.


After nearly three years in Oman, with two more still ahead of me, I might look into retiring somewhere bitterly cold! :lol:

d

I completely understand. I spent this year in Hermosillo.

124�F. 51�C

When I returned I immediately went to the mountains where it was 39�F.

I thought I knew what 'hot' meant.

Nope.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someplace that has an obvious change of seasons. Freezing cold and very hot.
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want a real job...sigh.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Deicide,

"I just want a real job , , , sigh."

I wonder if you'd mind giving us your parameters for "a real job?"

I have heard others say the same, and in those cases, "a real job" was always defined by how much salary one made.

So, if one could take home, say, $100,000 a years stuffing sausages, then those unhappy teachers (who almost always felt "trapped" in the profession) would definitely regard sausage stuffing - as opposed to teaching - to be a "real job."

Regards,
John
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Deicide



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear Deicide,

"I just want a real job , , , sigh."

I wonder if you'd mind giving us your parameters for "a real job?"

I have heard others say the same, and in those cases, "a real job" was always defined by how much salary one made.

So, if one could take home, say, $100,000 a years stuffing sausages, then those unhappy teachers (who almost always felt "trapped" in the profession) would definitely regard sausage stuffing - as opposed to teaching - to be a "real job."

Regards,
John


1. I don't want to earn USD if I have a choice, please give me a � salary.

2. Hmm...it's partly the money but partly the knowledge that EFL is just so much bollocks and bullshit that doing it not only gets on my *beep* but just makes me think how much I would prefer to do something else with the near nonexistent skills I have.

3. For �100,000 a year I would stuff sausages for a living. You have an offer to make?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Deicide,

"Hmm...it's partly the money but partly the knowledge that EFL is just so much bollocks and bullshit that doing it not only gets on my *beep* but just makes me think how much I would prefer to do something else with the near nonexistent skills I have."

I know it may be difficult to credit, but at least some of us think that TEFL is worthwhile, satisfying, and even fulfilling employment. But, as I mentioned, if someone doesn't enjoy a job at all, then it's definitely time for a change.


"3. For �100,000 a year I would stuff sausages for a living. You have an offer to make?"

Unfortunately no -and what's worse, I'd rather make 50, 40, or even 30 thousand a year teaching than 100,000 a year stuffing sausages.

Regards,
John
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Global Hobo



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:


Unfortunately no -and what's worse, I'd rather make 50, 40, or even 30 thousand a year teaching than 100,000 a year stuffing sausages.



You can make even more money that stuffing sausages but it all depends on where you're prepared to stuff them..
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Global Hobo,

". . . it all depends on where you're prepared to stuff them."

And, of course, what you're prepared to stuff them with.

One could, I suppose, metaphorically compare teachers to "sausage stuffers," but then, of course, one would have to regard one's students as "sausages."

Regards,
John
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