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Robert100
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 13 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: Ideal time to start teaching in Japan? |
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Hello.
I have recently finished my CELTA and hopefully will be looking for TEFL jobs in Japan as soon as I have sorted my house to rent out. Instead of taking the ALT route, I would like to go straight into teaching myself with the possibility of being in Japan for several years (fingers crossed).
Is there an ideal time to start looking for a teaching job in Japan? If there is a standard one year contract, then I would like to pick a start date that expires at a time where there is a reasonable amount of jobs available again to apply for. Not sure if there are 'droughts' of teaching job opportunities for certain periods in the Japanese calender.
Presumably my options are initially limited to private language schools?
Many thanks in advance. |
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Cool Teacher

Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Here, There and Everywhere! :D
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:19 am Post subject: Re: Ideal time to start teaching in Japan? |
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Robert100 wrote: |
Is there an ideal time to start looking for a teaching job in Japan? If there is a standard one year contract, then I would like to pick a start date that expires at a time where there is a reasonable amount of jobs available again to apply for. Not sure if there are 'droughts' of teaching job opportunities for certain periods in the Japanese calender.
Presumably my options are initially limited to private language schools? |
Oh! You shoudle look at the FAQs.
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21. Is it easier to get a job if you go to Japan, or by applying from my home country?
22. When is the best time to look for a teaching job?
23. What should I bring to Japan?
24. Will my DVDs and video tapes work on Japanese equipment?
25. Should I bring a computer to Japan, or buy one there?
26. How is life for a vegetarian in Japan?
27. Do Asians have problems finding teaching jobs in Japan?
28. How can I send money home?
29. What is the situation about paying taxes in my home country when I work in Japan?
30.What do things cost in Japan and what can I expect to spend on food, entertainment, rent etc in each area of the country?
31. What insurance do I need, what are the different kinds? Am I getting the right insurance from my employer?
32. Are there any language schools that should be avoided?
33. Are there unions in Japan that can help me with employer-related problems?
34. Where can I find out all the rules and regulations on visa and immigration?
35. Where can I get a copy of the Labour Laws in Japan?
36. Where can I find out more about the pension system in Japan, and the bulk pension refund?
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FAQ #2 thread is the place to look.
I thikn youre second queston about eikawia only is in the first FAQ thread.
Please have a look through all the FAQS and if you have more quesitons then come back
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:12 am Post subject: |
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You have a CELTA. Do you have a bachelor's degree?
You don't want to be an ALT, but want to be a solo teacher. Ok, that leaves the very rare direct hires in public schools, the slightly more common direct hires in private schools, eikaiwa, and business schools. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
You don't want to be an ALT, but want to be a solo teacher. Ok, that leaves the very rare direct hires in public schools, the slightly more common direct hires in private schools, eikaiwa, and business schools. |
Direct hires in public schools are 99% of the time still AETs (i.e. they aren't allowed to teach or even supervise classes alone without a JTE present). I suspect that a large percentage of private school direct (or indeed indirect) hires are also AETs basically. I've only heard of one or two BOEs that printed silly/worthless teaching certificates or credentials to allow foreign, presumably "unqualified" teachers, permission to teach alone. So 'direct hire' usually just means getting all the pay and perks that dispatch agencies swallow up.
Just clarifying what would otherwise potentially be quite ambiguous.
As for eikaiwa, here's a thought: is one ever really teaching solo given the constraints that are often operating in especially the chain ones (e.g. having to slavishly stick to a method and allied materials; observation or monitoring of classes etc).
I would imagine that one of the best situations for teaching more or less solo would be (direct hire) elementary school "A"ET. (I've sort of mentioned this before ).
By the way, congrats on completing the CELTA, Rob! |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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fluffyhamster wrote: |
I would imagine that one of the best situations for teaching more or less solo would be (direct hire) elementary school "A"ET. (I've sort of mentioned this before ).
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How do you figure THAT!? A lot of people who have been here a while and taught at different levels simply refuse to have anything to do with elementary schools. Some of them will refuse to do a junior high position that has no chance of becoming a senior high one, as well.
The behaviour of kids (boys in particular) in this country is atrocious. It's why if you look through ads, you see that elementary positions often pay slightly more than others. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hi GBBB. I've taught at each school level, and I've never had much if any "real trouble" in/with elementary classes (or the problems some kids were having weren't with my English classes); kids seem to act up most at JHS age. SHS I'd agree is about the cushiest level for an AET, but a lot of the students are getting a bit too cool for school and/or aren't that interested in English anymore.
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A lot of people who have been here a while and taught at different levels simply refuse to have anything to do with elementary schools. |
Perhaps they aren't very good at relating to kids, or teaching full stop?
But seriously, I think that's the beauty of it. As few people are that interested in teaching in elementary schools or even monitoring what's going on in them, and there aren't any of those pesky JTEs running around and potentially messing the subject up, any halfway serious "A"ET can knock themselves out that bit more. |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 664 Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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To me Elementary would be the best to teach. Younger children are still in "adventure mode".
Seems that Elementary children would be more willing to learn something new compared to JHS or SHS children because school is still new and exciting to them. They're also more curious, imo, and always asking questions (sometimes). By the time JHS or SHS rolls around, they have other things on their minds to distract them...like "trying to be cool" or dating or whatever or school, at that age, is more like a mandatory chore to some of them.
This is one of my main reasons as to why if choosing a level to teach on (in general), it would be the Elementary kids. Of course I'm basing that on my observation from here, as I'm not certain if this is true for Japanese students or any other country's students. |
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Mr_Monkey
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Posts: 661 Location: Kyuuuuuushuuuuuuu
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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fluffyhamster wrote: |
As for eikaiwa, here's a thought: is one ever really teaching solo given the constraints that are often operating in especially the chain ones (e.g. having to slavishly stick to a method and allied materials; observation or monitoring of classes etc). |
I worked for GEOS for just under two years, and I never experienced any of that - we were expected to plan for lessons, and I was observed maybe twice. we were given training in the "GEOS Communicative Method", which was useful for an unqualified and inexperienced teacher as I was at that time, but I was never forbidden from teaching a different approach. The training provided for teachers in their second year even covered different approaches like TBL and guided discovery.
Apart from that, we were expected to develop our own materials, and it was quite possible to skip away from the (often poor) textbooks, it was even encouraged (Sprint 7, anyone?). However, we were told to have the students open their in-house textbooks at least once per lesson.
I don't deny that you're not totally free to teach what you like, how you like - this is true in any teaching context; even if you're teaching in your own school, your students still have expectations that you need to meet - but I found that I had a great deal more freedom working at GEOS than eikaiwa work is often portrayed as allowing.
If I had the choice between eikaiwa and ALT again, I'd choose eikaiwa again. |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that, Mr_Monkey - it's not often we get to hear about the actual teaching that goes on in eikaiwa. GEOS doesn't sound bad, then (that'll teach me to exaggerate only the potential cons)! Actually, now I come to think of it, the few GEOS teachers that I've met all seemed pretty happy with their jobs. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: |
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fluffyhamster wrote: |
Direct hires in public schools are 99% of the time still AETs (i.e. they aren't allowed to teach or even supervise classes alone without a JTE present). |
Well, then the other 1% is what I classified as extremely rare.
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I suspect that a large percentage of private school direct (or indeed indirect) hires are also AETs basically. I've only heard of one or two BOEs that printed silly/worthless teaching certificates or credentials to allow foreign, presumably "unqualified" teachers, permission to teach alone. So 'direct hire' usually just means getting all the pay and perks that dispatch agencies swallow up. |
Wouldn't know about any private school AETs. I used to be a full-time solo teacher, not AET, along with 4 coworkers in the private JHS/SHS. We got everything the J teachers got, and we were hired directly. There are more of us like that, although I couldn't say what the percentage is compare to AETs.
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As for eikaiwa, here's a thought: is one ever really teaching solo given the constraints that are often operating in especially the chain ones (e.g. having to slavishly stick to a method and allied materials; observation or monitoring of classes etc). |
Not sure how persnickety you want to get on details here. Let's just say that even in a solo HS position, one is expected to follow a syllabus that probably someone else drew up. How much flexibility one has to deviate from that (or from an eikaiwa plan) varies a lot. But in eikaiwa, you are the only teacher in the room. |
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Ryu Hayabusa

Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 182
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:21 am Post subject: |
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I'm an ALT/AET working primarily in elementary schools. About 65% of my classes I plan and run. The HRT is my assistant. The other 35% of classes I plan and the HRT takes the lead and teaches. With the new Eigo Note curriculum (Grade 5 and 6) coming fully into effect, the HRTs in schools are expected to take the lead and be the main teacher in English classes. I see it as the Ministry of Education gradually trying to eliminate the need for ALTs in the classroom. Whether or not the happens is up in the air. I don't think it will. I do, however, believe that the days of the ALT being the main teacher in ES English classes might be coming to an end in a few years. I foresee the ES ALTs being used in similar ways as they are in JHS now.
Many of the teachers in the 65% of schools where I'm the lead are gradually stepping in and trying to be T1. Most of the time, I don't think they do a good job but I try to be professional and support them however I can. Being an assistant when the HRT is a good English teacher is great, being an assistant when the HRT is not a good teacher is hell. |
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Robert100
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 13 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi. Many thanks for the replies.
Glenski wrote: |
You have a CELTA. Do you have a bachelor's degree? |
Yes, I have pass B from my CELTA, a BA degree (a 3 year + preceding foundation), native English speaker, had lessons is Japanese and two years part time teaching experience (although I know in today's climate, all of this may not account for much, even for a 'newbie').
Glenski wrote: |
You don't want to be an ALT, but want to be a solo teacher. Ok, that leaves the very rare direct hires in public schools, the slightly more common direct hires in private schools, eikaiwa, and business schools. |
The only reason I thought about about bypassing the ALT route are down to the fact I would like to gain teaching experience as opposed to assisting. Although comments made on this thread seem to contradict what I have read about how much an ALT's teaching involvement in the class actally is. Also, with JET for example, the start date of July/August (presumably for a year) means that the majority of jobs advertised for the 'golden' April start date (if you know what I mean) mentioned in the FAQ will be unobtainable. Unless I am wrong. I would like to (no matter how foolish ) begin a career in TEFL as opposed to just experience another country for a year.
The one concern I do have, after doing some looking on the net, is the issue of finding work while not residing in Japan. It seems that some of the worldwide recruiting agencies (ECC for example) have already recruited their 'fill' for next year.
Do private schools and eikaiwa schools have many opportunities for the new spring term where they recruit from outside of Japan and if so, have I missed these opportunities?
Although I haver noticed the word 'saturation' use a lot in these forums, is it currently really that difficult to find work teaching English in Japan?
I must be in the same position as many people just starting out, so any recommended 'plans of attack' apart from �give up while you can�?
Apologies for any naivety in these questions, but as you can see, I am completely new to all this.
Many thanks in advanced. |
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basilbrush
Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 61
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Just my thoughts,
If you want to begin a career in TEFL I don't think Japan is the right place for you. Realistically you're looking at working for one of the big schools, and although it's true that you get out what you put in, eikaiwa teaching is a joke. The only people starting out here who have good deals work for small eikaiwas, and this can be hit and miss. If you want to come to Japan to have a good time then that's a different story, I love it here. But if you're looking for job satisfaction then unless you're lucky you wont find it.
Maybe Europe would be better for you? |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Robert100 wrote: |
Also, with JET for example, the start date of July/August (presumably for a year) means that the majority of jobs advertised for the 'golden' April start date (if you know what I mean) mentioned in the FAQ will be unobtainable. |
Yes, JET contracts are for a year, from one July/August to the next. But if you got onto JET, there's usually the option to renew at least once (and JETs seem to then get 2-3 year visas!), and even if that wasn't a possibility, you'd have plenty of free time in which to network for other jobs and be earning enough to save plenty if there wasn't enough work from the end of a JET contract round until the following spring.
Regarding where is a good place to start if not continue your career, I must say that I found it quite a shock to come back to the UK after more than a decade in Asia. Quite apart from the pay being insufficient relative to the cost of living, quite a few of the students seemed spoilt and sometimes even rude and churlish (some are "studying" English just to gain entry and have a long holiday at their parents' expense!), and the school staff often sourfaced, burnt out and increasingly rules and regulation mad (I mean, a contract about 40 dense pages long?!). Add to that being allowed to draw on only the "approved" but limited stock of Penny Ur or whoever's continually re-heated activities to supplement the likes of Headway, all taught in bubbly (or not so bubbly) supposedly communicative methodese, and it's enough to make one yearn for the pleasant memories of eating mouldy Japanese bread on dispatch AET wages. (I was a JET once though, long long ago in a BOE far away... ).
But seriously, your career is what you make it, but IMHO there is as much holding one back as "helping" one forward in native English countries (not sure about Europe, but again it's low pay/expensive, at least at the lower echelons of the industry/field), and you can e.g. do distance MAs (isn't everyone nowadays) or whatever as a means of professional development wherever you find yourself. All that being said, there are of course constraints (of a somewhat different kind) operating in Japan also on what is and isn't kosher teaching, but on balance, you will probably have greater freedom, greater leeway, to experiment, "indulge" yourself, even knock yourself out teaching-wise, whilst of course enjoying the experience of living in a country that will doubtless be more stimulating and interesting than dear old Blighty ever could be, at least for the honeymoon period (however long that might last - depends on the finances, ultimately! Ooh, that reminds me, don't forget about pensions, not that slaving away in Brighton School of English or wherever in the UK will provide you with much of one either! ).
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Nagano, Japan
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Europe will give you way more job satisfaction than Japan if progression is your thing. Get a Delta then aim for Teacher Trainer or DOS (my plan, long long ago...). In Europe they've actually heard of a sylabus and students actually come in at the start of the year and leave at the end with the ability to speak English. Here, money takes precedence over everything in the private school world. For example, I just had a complete beginner six-year-old added to a private class I do at a small eikaiwa, making it one 6yr old, two 8yr olds, an 11yr old and a 13yr old (in Junior High!) all in the same class. Thank God they're all girls, but even so there is very little I can do to benefit all of them. If it wasn't bookended by two easy classes I would seriously consider dropping it.
On the other hand, the big draw for Japan is money. Be prepared for poverty in Europe with no savings while in Japan even a dispatch ALT job can be pretty well paid considering what you do. Its not as good as it was but the yen is still low to the pound (150 - was as high as 250 a couple of years ago) meaning decent savings if you have any money left over.
And don't rule out ALT jobs. In Junior High the 'A' exists, in Elementary or Senior High the Japanese teacher will have little to no input on your class and you can do whatever the hell you like. One of my JTEs admits he enjoys the hour nap he gets in the corridor while I teach his classes. Not all of them are such bums though, he's a big exception. Of course, unless you get regular classes you'll be seeing each group once a month at best and there's nothing much you can do other than try to amuse them. You can't knead bread by beating it with a straw... |
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