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starteacher
Joined: 25 Feb 2009 Posts: 237
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: What does 29.5 hours mean exactly |
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This figure 29.5 hours has been floated everywhere, but what does it mean ?
How does insurance work with this and how can legal loopholes be skipped by employers not paying shakai hoken ?
Are the 29.5 hours only class lesson duration ? How about the 5-10 minute breaks in between classes ? And the 1 hour lunch (btw, is 1 hour lunch a mandatory setting for all employers for working conditions ?) is this included as part of the 29.5 hours (hence 5 hours a week lunchtime).
How about travel time from main office to other branches/schools outside of teaching at the main office ? Is this included in the 29.5 hour figure.
Can someone clarify this ? I think employers should wake up to the fact that they can be sued if they are breaking the 29.5 hour barrier, but first it needs to be clarified.
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Your employer can count what he wants to say that those are your working hours. Anything less than 29.5 per week (3/4 of FT) technically qualifies you as a part-timer, so he does not have to offer you shakai hoken (and make copayments).
Travel time, prep time, interviewing students, between-class breaks, etc. are often NOT counted by the employers who want out of this obligation. They may only count the number of hours your butt is in a classroom, even if you are physically at the school and on its grounds from 8 to 5.
Sadly, it's legal.
When has lunch ever been counted as a work hour, BTW?
More here.
http://www.generalunion.org/law/healthandpension.htm |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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When has lunch ever been counted as a work hour, BTW?
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If you are required to be at school and actually spend lunch with the students, perhaps it should be counted. In other countries it is sometimes counted as a seperate job: midday superviser. |
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Angelfish
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 131
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Generally speaking, you should be doing a maximum of 25 hours teaching time (depending how long your classes are). If you teach a 45 min class, those extra 15 minutes out of the hour are not counted as working time, even if you are talking to students, checking homework, whatever in that time.
Non-teaching duties are normally supposed to take up the remaining 4.5 hours. This can include but is not restricted to:
Lesson prep
Lobby talk (depending on your students you could end up doing a little or a lot of this, if this takes you over your non-teaching hours, your head office staff will just tell you to cut it out, which we all know is nearly impossible to do)
Interviewing and model lessons for new and prospective students
Poster making
Cleaning
Paperwork
Online and telephone meetings
Daily school staff meetings
Handing out flyers
If you are not teaching 25 hours, you are expected to make up that time with extra non-teaching duties.
Basically, you'll be working a 40 hour week, paid for 29.5, but you will still be earning nearly twice as much as your manager, who works a 50+ hour week, often 6 days a week and gets constant grief from HO. If you try and hold to your 29.5 only, you're gonna look like a crapbag to said manager. If working 40 hours for a 29.5 hour contract is something that's gonna bug you and drive you up the wall on a daily basis, then don't work for an eikaiwa. You will not be able to change it.
It's not exactly "legal" legal, but it's legal in the sense that there's pretty much nothing you can do about it. It's not that they're trying to screw you out of money for hours work, it's purely to avoid paying the Shakai Hoken (which you would have to pay half of anyway). If they did decide to opt into SH, you can bet your hours would go up to 40 without any recompense in pay.
In a nutshell, it's good for people who want to stay short-term and not pay a pension. Bad for people who want to stay long-term, become a full member of society.
Come April 2010, it's gonna be bad for everyone who needs to renew their visa. |
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ripslyme

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Angelfish wrote: |
Come April 2010, it's gonna be bad for everyone who needs to renew their visa. |
How is it bad for those of us who are already on Shakai Hoken? |
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Angelfish
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 131
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ripslyme wrote: |
| Angelfish wrote: |
Come April 2010, it's gonna be bad for everyone who needs to renew their visa. |
How is it bad for those of us who are already on Shakai Hoken? |
Pedantic much?
Since it was a thread about eikaiwa workers who are not provided with Shakai Hoken by their company, I (foolishly one might say) assumed the thread was referring to eikaiwa employees who work over 29.5 hours but are not provided with Shakai Hoken.
I do apologise. Let me make it clearer for you, so as to dispel any confusion you may have encountered in my previous post. I realise implied meaning is one of trickier concepts of the English language, especially if you have to consider all that "context" hoo-ha as well.
It will be bad for all "semi-full-time" eikaiwa employees who are not enrolled by their company into shakai hoken to get their visa renewed next year when the new regulations come into effect.
Better? |
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Cool Teacher

Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Here, There and Everywhere! :D
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| What does 29.5 hours mean exactly? |
1770 minutes or 106200 seconds!  |
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ripslyme

Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 481 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Angelfish wrote: |
| ripslyme wrote: |
| Angelfish wrote: |
Come April 2010, it's gonna be bad for everyone who needs to renew their visa. |
How is it bad for those of us who are already on Shakai Hoken? |
Pedantic much?
Since it was a thread about eikaiwa workers who are not provided with Shakai Hoken by their company, I (foolishly one might say) assumed the thread was referring to eikaiwa employees who work over 29.5 hours but are not provided with Shakai Hoken.
I do apologise. Let me make it clearer for you, so as to dispel any confusion you may have encountered in my previous post. I realise implied meaning is one of trickier concepts of the English language, especially if you have to consider all that "context" hoo-ha as well.
It will be bad for all "semi-full-time" eikaiwa employees who are not enrolled by their company into shakai hoken to get their visa renewed next year when the new regulations come into effect.
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Much better, thanks. |
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basilbrush
Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| F**king 29.5 hour nonsense upsets me so much! Also, it | | |