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Aristotle
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Taiwan
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Let's not forget that "I" post on over 100 additional boards and chat rooms regularly in nearly every English speaking country as well as countries or regions were there are large numbers of foreign ESL teachers employed. In addition to this "I" answer on average between 10 and 20 emails daily as well as coordinate and research any and all complaints about schools brought to "my" attention.
"I " also write a monthly newsletter and research and coordinate the SSETT web site and all information posted there.
"I" also teach full time and make numerous visa runs every month or two.
Pretty miraculous for one person I have to admit but "I" manage.
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brian
Joined: 15 May 2003
Posts: 299
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Aristotle wrote: |
| Let's not forget that "I" post on over 100 additional boards and chat rooms regularly in nearly every English speaking country as well as countries or regions were there are large numbers of foreign ESL teachers employed. In addition to this "I" answer on average between 10 and 20 emails daily |
God help us all. It seems that things are far worse than I thought!!
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| ...as well as coordinate and research any and all complaints about school brought to "my" attention. |
As I have asked repeatedly but never received any form of answer to - How exactly do you 'research' complaints?
I think it safe to assume that if you contact a school regarding a teachers complaint, that the school will have a totally different version of what happened to that of the teacher. This is just logical and is why they no doubt had a conflict in the first place. It stands to reason then that you, as an individual, must make a value judgement as to whose version you believe and thenceforth publicize as having been substantiated. Considering your bias against schools, it's hard to believe that you would view the situations objectively, and therefore your whole process of 'verifying complaints' is flawed.
If you were posting as an individual voicing your own personal opinion then that would be fine. When you post as if you are representing some form of 'teachers association' you are deliberately misleading readers. I believe that this is wrong and irresponsible.
The fact that you expend a considerable amount of your time doing this, doesn't in anyway validate your position nor opinion. |
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Posts: 1028
Location: Taoyuan
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| Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| Aristotle, you have provided a very limited sense of the word "crony" in your posted definition. Don't try to fool anyone into believing you meant anything along those lines. You know what you meant and so do I. The most common use of "crony" is derogatory in nature. Crony has a meaning closer to that of butt kisser, henchman or mindless supporter of a policy or organization. Eg. "I don't like to talk about my work problems with Bill. He's a real company crony. He'll only spout pro company rhetoric." Therefore your use of crony in this case was not meant merely as a "noun," but as an insult. Not exactly the F word, I know. But still, can you do no better than this? Try to make a morepositive contribution to these discussions. Don't simply advertise your club and insult those who aren't Aristotle "cronies". |
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EOD
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 167
Location: Taiwan
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Let's not forget that "I" post on over 100 additional boards and chat rooms regularly in nearly every English speaking country as well as countries or regions were there are large numbers of foreign ESL teachers employed. In addition to this "I" answer on average between 10 and 20 emails daily as well as coordinate and research any and all complaints about schools brought to "my" attention.
"I " also write a monthly newsletter and research and coordinate the SSETT web site and all information posted there.
"I" also teach full time and make numerous visa runs every month or two.
Pretty miraculous for one person I have to admit but "I" manage.
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A few years ago I was a moderator for the now defunct East Asia Business Weekly Ezine. There was some illiterate nutcase posting under the name of SSETT on that forum as well. I repeatedly kicked him off and banned the individual.
Not because I necessarily disagreed with what they posted, it was just inappropriate for a business focused site.
Like a bad case of herpes he just kept coming back. |
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brian
Joined: 15 May 2003
Posts: 299
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Once again, Aristotle goes silent when questions regarding his 'society' arise. |
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Aristotle
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Taiwan
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: |
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I am sorry brian but "I' am not permitted to divulge such information to non members. Particularly to persons with such close affiliations to the criminal government of the Republic of China. "I" understand that as a Taiwanese person you have no understanding of what respect for the privacy of others means.
The R.O.C. currently forbids both foreigners and teachers from forming any kind union. Recently several Catholic priest and nuns were threatened with deportation and arrest for organizing a a foreign worker protest in Taipei. When the Government of the R.O.C. changes their oppressive policies in practice. "I" may be able to more accommodating.
EOD, that was before my time, I will check my predecessor's records but I do not recall off-hand any such incident. As a rule our work usually is done within the the English Teaching community.
It may have been some of our more radical supporters posting under the SSETT name.
For the record:
No member of SSETT has ever divulged any information about any other member or the work we do!
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Posts: 778
Location: Hong Kong
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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How much can you make for summer camps in Taiwan?
I do one summercamp in Korea for $3000/month. But would like to consider Taiwan if it was even remotely possible to find something similar. |
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brian
Joined: 15 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| Aristotle wrote: |
| I am sorry brian but "I' am not permitted to divulge such information to non members. Particularly to persons with such close affiliations to the criminal government of the Republic of China. "I" understand that as a Taiwanese person you have no understanding of what respect for the privacy of others means. |
Well as I am not actually a Taiwanese, nor of Chinese descent and am actually �white�, the above statement sounds rather silly. I respect people�s privacy and as such have never requested that you name anyone, or state anything that would obviously identify anyone. I have merely requested that you supply basic information about situations that will enable people to actually confirm that what you claim is in fact true. The fact remains that unless you support your statements with something, then they will be seen for what they are � nothing!
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| The R.O.C. currently forbids both foreigners and teachers from forming any kind union. |
You have often claimed this, but I don�t believe that it is entirely true. I believe that this is your way of protecting the fact that no one recognizes your �society� as being anything more than an individual guy with a grudge, behind a keyboard.
Not long ago there was news that local teachers had established a union. At the time I seem to recall that you were on this board complaining that they were not returning your emails about wanting to join, or something to that effect.
I seem to recall having read through legislation at some time or another that made it clear that foreigners can indeed be part of a union, the only stipulation being that the head representative of the union can�t be a foreigner. I�ll see if I can track this information down again as it could be useful. Therefore, my understanding is that foreign teachers could in fact start a union, but no doubt any union established for the purposes of subversive activities would be stamped on by the government. Judging by the comments that you make, and the fact that you openly support illegal activities in Taiwan, you or your union would, and in my opinion should, be closed down. For this very reason I doubt that you would find any local willing to be the head of your organization, and that in itself would prevent �you� from having your own union, but wouldn�t prevent others from doing so.
Isn�t there a Migrant Workers Union? The people who run offices aimed at protecting the rights of blue collar foreigners here in Taiwan.
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| Recently several Catholic priest and nuns were threatened with deportation and arrest for organizing a a foreign worker protest in Taipei. |
You have been posting this for quite some time so I don�t see that it is �recently� any longer. Your own post states that they were organizing a protest, not establishing a union. These are two very different things, and I feel that it is misleading to put them together. Protests are allowed but strictly controlled here in Taiwan. There is a protocol to be followed here in organizing a public protest, just as I am sure there is in many of our countries back home. If the government feels that they could turn violent or encouraging descent then surely the government has the right to refuse permission for the protest to take place. Undertaking a protest without the required permission would surely incur the wrath of Taiwan riot authorities, and anyone who has ever seen these guys in action certainly wouldn�t want to be on the receiving end of what they have to dish out. To undertake a protest without the governments permission is illegal, and if any foreigner were to act illegally in Taiwan then they could and most probably should be deported. The fact that they are religious peoples should have no bearing on this � illegal is illegal. The fact is though, that they weren�t deported. They were warned, and decided to heed this warning. There are other methods of establishing dialogue than protesting.
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| EOD, that was before my time, I will check my predecessor's records but I do not recall off-hand any such incident. |
Oh come on Aristotle. You must be the only one that believes that your �society� is anything more than you, in your spare bedroom, with a computer. EOD�s experience is characteristic of the way that you post here on many other boards.
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It may have been some of our more radical supporters posting under the SSETT name.
For the record:
No member of SSETT has ever divulged any information about any other member or the work we do. |
How do you know this? If indeed you have �radical supporters� and they are posting about your society on boards without your knowledge, then surely you have to concede that they could be passing on other information about your society without your knowledge.
The main question that you haven�t answered though is this. You have always claimed that your society needs to be kept secret, as it is illegal here in Taiwan, and that all of the information you have needs to be kept confidential in order to protect the sources of that information. Despite this, you still require people to register before having access to any of the information that you claim to offer, thereby giving up their anonymity, whilst you continue to claim that your society would never expose itself in a similar way. Assuming that what you say is correct, and your organization is highly illegal. Then isn�t anyone who actually divulges personal information during the registration process for your society putting themselves in a very vulnerable position. Following on from your own conspiracy type theories, I see two possible scenarios:
1. Your society is a government trap. Anyone who registers gets promptly deported for supporting a subversive group here in Taiwan.
2. More likely though, you are what you claim. In that case, what guarantees can you give people that do sign up, that their information is not being collected by the government, either with or without your knowledge. Or that their personal information wouldn�t be given over to the authorities by you if you were arrested for running your organizations. I mean you must keep lists of such information, so what guarantees do you give that the authorities cannot access it. Your personal guarantee?!! Well, who the hell are you anyway?!!!
If the above points seem utterly ridiculous then isn�t the secret basis of your society equally ridiculous. I mean it has to be one or the other. Either you can openly present the information that you claim you have, or we should be so careful that anyone would be asking for trouble to disclose their personal information to anyone. I would appreciate an answer from Aristotle on this as it is all rather perplexing. |
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