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The Lathe of Heaven
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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Location: drifting from dream to dream from future to future
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Hi fu&cky 1924.
I would rather make a million mmmmmistakes than think like you do.
TLOH |
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Grendal
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Posts: 861
Location: Lurking in the depths of the Faisaliah Tower underground parking.
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Hey paws off the Lathe OK!
He's my kitty litter changer and feeds me too.
oooopss did I say he.
meow
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Mia Xanthi
Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Posts: 955
Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?
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| Interests: Football and making sure Saudis are put in their places, they just came out of their caves 79 years ago!!! |
IMHO, the Saudis are fully aware of their "place" and do not need you to tell them about it. The biggest problem for Saudis is the chip that they feel forced to wear on their shoulders by people like you who constantly remind them of the low opinion that the world has about them.
Saudi Arabia is a vast land made up of INDIVIDUALS and there is a great deal of variation among them. Many of them justifiably resent having to bear the stain of religious conservatives as their national "badge of honor" in front of the world. Do not tar them all with the same brush. Give 'em a break, and you will be delighted at what you can learn from them about surviving and thriving under difficult circumstances. |
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funcky1924
Joined: 26 Aug 2009
Posts: 45
Location: Saudi
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| telling the truth about how backwards they are, in my world is not racist its called telling the truth. |
Compared to Neanderthals like you they're positively advanced. And don't complain about that statement, it's called 'telling the truth.' |
Either you�ve literally �bent over� the rules for Saudis, or you�re absolutely clueless with Saudis and general Saudi life. Now that, is what I call, �Straight� forward truth. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Dear funcky1274,
I'm curious - why would anyone who disdains Saudis as much as you seem to want to go there to teach them?
KKK members don't line up to teach in ghetto schools.
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John |
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funcky1924
Joined: 26 Aug 2009
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Location: Saudi
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Dear funcky1274,
I'm curious - why would anyone who disdains Saudis as much as you seem to want to go there to teach them?
KKK members don't line up to teach in ghetto schools.
Regards,
John |
as muslim I have a part to that side of the world. sad to see they not reflecting true islam. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Dear funcky1924,
" . . . sad to see they not reflecting true islam."
Well, except for the fact that your "they" is much too inclusive, I'm in agreement with you here. I'd say that a good number of Saudis do not practice what I consider to be "true Islam." A lot of cultural traditions and restrictions that have nothing to do with Islam are justified in its name.
However, I met a good number of Saudis in my time there who, in my opinion, were practicing "true Islam." So, I guess my beef with what you've been writing is that it's much too general.
Regards,
John |
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funcky1924
Joined: 26 Aug 2009
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Location: Saudi
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compund.
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saharastars
Joined: 30 Sep 2009
Posts: 107
Location: Wonderland
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I agree with John,
I think your posts come off a little too strongly. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Dear funky1924,
Never lived on a compound in my 19 years there.
"You get the extreme ones and the lenient ones, but there is no in betweens in Saudi . . ."
What would an "in between" be? Half-extreme and half-lenient? I'm not trying to be sarcastic here; I just don't get your meaning.
I also agree that the working conditions for many "non-western" ex-pats and the way they are all too often treated/regarded is shameful.
Unfortunately, it's not at all unique to Saudi, either. In my part of the US, many "undocumented aliens" get very similar treatment - from "good Christian people."
You're going to find hypocrites and the uncaring wherever you go, sad to say.
"People, who don�t treat others as humans, do no deserve to be treated as humans . . ."
Ah, but then YOU become as bad as they are. That's letting them win.
Treat everyone as you'd want to be treated, and don't become a hater or an inconsiderate idiot as they are.
Regards,
John |
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trapezius
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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| The biggest problem for Saudis is the chip that they feel forced to wear on their shoulders by people like you who constantly remind them of the low opinion that the world has about them. |
Classic chicken and egg scenario if I ever saw one!  |
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