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what salary have you been offered?
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You know, I was thinking about working in SA for a while, but the recent low salaries seem to be much lower than previously availble.


Salaries have not gone down. Those places who paid well 2 years ago are still paying well today. It's just that, in the last year or so, a lot of new places have opened or expanded, and because of the very newness of these employers, they receive a lot of attention on this board and elsewhere. Some of these new employers offer lousy deals, but others aren't so bad.

As I've said before, if you have an MA and (sometimes or) decent experience, you should have little trouble finding a decent enough job paying at least SR12000 a month plus housing and benefits.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Middle East Beast



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
Salaries have not gone down.


That is unequivocally false, regarding both the recent and extended past in the Tragic Kingdom.

The Saudis have been criticized extensively for the disparity between salaries for TCN's vs. westerners for the same jobs. The appearance and now proliferation of these insulting salaries indicates that the Saudis' response is to achieve parity; they've chosen the wrong direction.

And you can easily beat SR12000 per month in the UAE. So why go to the Tragic Kingdom?
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is unequivocally false, regarding both the recent and extended past in the Tragic Kingdom.


No it isn't. I know for a fact that the more respected third level institutions have not lowered their salaries. In fact, many raised them quite considerably 2 years ago.

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TCN's vs. westerners


Most of us do not work in embassies or foreign owned companies, so the phrase "TCN" is inappropriate here. We are all hired foreign help, whether we be British or Bangladeshi.

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The appearance and now proliferation of these insulting salaries indicates that the Saudis' response is to achieve parity; they've chosen the wrong direction.


Salaries in KSA - as in the rest of the Gulf - still vary greatly depending on your passport. Anyway, as I made clear in my last post, I was not talking about new employers, who do often pay very badly. I was talking about established third level institutions, who have - I repeat - not lowered their salaries.

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And you can easily beat SR12000 per month in the UAE. So why go to the Tragic Kingdom?


Not everyone craves the Emirates' weird mix of sleaze and smugness. Anyway, the question was about salaries in KSA, not the UAE.
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Middle East Beast



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
Anyway, the question was about salaries in KSA, not the UAE.


I had to laugh at this. Why don't you criticize everyone who's brought up a comparison of the Tragic Kingdom with another country regarding any subject? You don't have time to do that.

Salaries in the Tragic Kingdom include both existing and new positions. If those you refer to aren't hiring, then it doesn't do anyone any good, does it?
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had to laugh at this. Why don't you criticize everyone who's brought up a comparison of the Tragic Kingdom with another country regarding any subject? You don't have time to do that.


I'm glad I afforded you some merriment, but if I had made a similar comment about you, you'd already be whining about 'getting personal'.

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Salaries in the Tragic Kingdom include both existing and new positions. If those you refer to aren't hiring, then it doesn't do anyone any good, does it?


Uhhhh...... when did I say they weren't' hiring? Can you provide an exact quote?
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Middle East Beast



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
be whining


There you go...that's the Cleo I know.

Enough of this. We're crowding someone's thread with this ridiculous conversation.
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saharastars



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.... don't stop, this debate is fabulous, darrrlings.I haven't laughed my head off in months- its great to see that that there are people out there wth much the same sentiments and sense of humour, as I.

Best of luck to one and all.


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The Lathe of Heaven



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

As I see it from my experience a BA + Cert + min. 2 years exp. (Saudi preferred) you should be offered no less than 12000 SAR a month plus housing and all the perks.

TLOH
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ ... if you are white.
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007



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and with blue/green eyes and holding the red/blue passport! Laughing
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reneebcc



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject: Pay rates Reply with quote

mozzar wrote:
So what is the average salary in KSA? I'll have my masters in two years and would be looking for a place to save up money and try and pay off my student loan.



Amen! Cool
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we were in Jeddah my ex-wife thought she was doing well to get 4000 SR a month. Qualified and experienced but local hire and she does not have that wonderful UK/US passport.

There are lots of teachers in KSA earning less trhan 4000 SR a month.
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sarahfc



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been offered $32,000 for 12 months with aetg which works out at just over 2,500 a month. tax free isnt bad. However I'm from Ireland and I was earning that after tax while I was teaching in a primary school last year. I'm sure I'll be able to save more out there than I can back home.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't good, either...

NCTBA
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