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Finding temporary/short-term work possible?
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:54 am    Post subject: Finding temporary/short-term work possible? Reply with quote

I'm planning to stay in Indonesia for all of March & April of next year - primarily to study Indonesian. However, it would be great if I could pick up some work there (f/t or p/t) to cover some of my expenses.

Is it possible to get short term gigs to make a bit of scratch in the major cities?

I've got a TEFL cert, bachelor's, master's (in an unrelated subject), and close to three year's of teaching experience (Korea, China, Australia).

What are my chances?
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a 3-month contract? That possible?
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rayman



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, it's possible. I doubt the 3 month contract though. Get in touch with the language schools before arriving. Let them you know you'll be available for part time work. Then contact them again when you're here. Probably best not to mention the relatively short amount of time you'll be in town though. Many schools will pay cash in hand to part timers filling in the empty slots due to illness etc. Depending on where you're living, advertising for privates is also a possibility.
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father Mackenzie



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt_22

You need to research your visa requirements too. As far as I know 60 days is the most for a social visa (tourist visa) before having to leave the country. You need to apply for that before arriving into the country.
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tourist visas on arrival for Indonesia are valid for 30 days. This kind of visa could be sufficient for you. If you plan to study and stay here for longer than 1 month, we should be glad to arrange a six month social-cultural visa so that you can stay here for up to 6 months without leaving Indonesia to arrange another visa. Please, contact us for further information.


this is what the puri bahasa language school in yogyakarta told me via email. that sound legit?
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rayman



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it does.
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newgabe



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rayman wrote:
Yes, it does.

It's half right.
The Social Budaya visa isn't necessarily a 6 month visa...

1. It has to applied for and obtained at an Embassy outside of Indonesia, with a sponsorship letter from an Indonesian. this sponsorship letter is best to follow a format... there are examples on www.livinginindonesiaforum.org

2. It's initially valid for 2 months but can be extended a month at a time up to a total of 6 months by applying in the same area as your original sponsor. Immigrasi does not HAVE to grant extensions. I have known people to be refused because there was some suspicion they might be working or even volunteering. Which necessitated a sudden run to get a new one with a different sponsor or a different kind of visa eg a 2 month tourist visa. the cost for this is 250.000rs a time, plus agent fees if you want to use one, to make things easier for yourself

3. does not allow you to work, so it you are sponsored by a school it might look dodgy. To get around this some organisations get you sponsored by a private individual eg the receptionist.

4. each time you apply for an extension you will not have your passport for a number of weeks as immigrasi/agents take their own sweet time. This really gave me the pip. On the second extension you will need to visit Imigrasi and have fingerprints, signature and photo taken for a central database.
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travelNteach



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but it is illegal to work on tourist, social, and business visas. the only way to work legally in indonesia is on the 1 year KITAS. they cost the school a lot of money and they wouldnt be interested in sponsoring u for 2/3 months. any school that is willing to hire u is dodgy and not concerned about your welfare should immigration pick u up. also, u cannot open a bank account with a KITAS.

social visa is different from tourist visa. tourist visa is a visa on demand for 30 days for a fee of 25 dollars. no sponsorship needed. as newgabe said, u need sponsorship for the social visa. if u are studying music at a school, they should be able to provide the sponsorship. if u are just hangin out and jamming, u will need to find a person or organization to do this for u. one place is okusi.net. they are a little more expensive than other places, but most people that i know that have used them have been happy and no hidden costs.

good luck
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MrMrLuckyKhan



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

travelNteach wrote:
also, u cannot open a bank account with a KITAS.

good luck


I assume you mean 'WITHOUT a KITAS', and not 'WITH a KITAS.'

Also, if you start out with the 30-day visa ON ARRIVAL you CANNOT extend it! You can only extend your visa if you start out with a 60-day visa BEFORE arrival.

The easiest way I know of to get the 60-day visa before arrival is go to Penang, Malaysia. You go to the consulate there and drop off your passport with 2 photos, airfare ticket, $50, and its all ready the very next morning to pick up!!!!
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

travelNteach wrote:
but it is illegal to work on tourist, social, and business visas. the only way to work legally in indonesia is on the 1 year KITAS. they cost the school a lot of money and they wouldnt be interested in sponsoring u for 2/3 months. any school that is willing to hire u is dodgy and not concerned about your welfare should immigration pick u up. also, u cannot open a bank account with a KITAS.

social visa is different from tourist visa. tourist visa is a visa on demand for 30 days for a fee of 25 dollars. no sponsorship needed. as newgabe said, u need sponsorship for the social visa. if u are studying music at a school, they should be able to provide the sponsorship. if u are just hangin out and jamming, u will need to find a person or organization to do this for u. one place is okusi.net. they are a little more expensive than other places, but most people that i know that have used them have been happy and no hidden costs.

good luck



so... i'm basically screwed unless i wanna commit for a year?

does malaysia have more suitable visa rules for short-term employment?
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scooby doo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a legitimate school, you could offer to foot the bill for the legal work visa and work permit. Perhaps they wouldn't mind sponsoring you as long as you paid the visa fees? For a mere 3 months you would probably have to pay out around Rp10 million once you counted in the agent's fee and foreign worker tax, etc. Your salary would have to be pretty amazing to make that a reasonable option.

It sounds like you are screwed.
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, thanks for letting me know at least. maybe i'll have to give up on going home for awhile, and hunt down a solid one-year gig instead.
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travelNteach



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually the foreigner tax is 100 dollars per month payable in advance for a total of 1200 us dollars. then there are the fees for the 7 government agencies for the work permit, flight to singapore, agents in indo and singapore, npwp, national police registration, and on and on. alot more than 10 million.

lots of schools do hire people part time without work permits or work permits for other schools. so it is doable as long as u dont call attention to yourself. personally i dont recommend it as it will be very expensive if u get caught. if u are only staying here 2 months, u might not need to work as the cost of living is pretty low, especailly if u live outside of jkt.

good catch Mr.lucky, i did mean without a kitas. thanks
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scooby doo



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is perhaps a little-known fact that one does not have to pay the entire 12 months of foreign worker tax ($1200) in advance for a 3-month work permit. In that case you only have to pay tax for 3 months. Some agents will process all the stages you mentioned for around 6-7 million. Finally, if you process this visa in your home country before you arrive, there's no need to go to Singapore. That's how I estimated 10 million, but it is merely a hypothesis.

Matt_22, you will LOVE Indonesia so much and end up staying for a whole year anyway.
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travelNteach



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is no such thing as a 3 month work visa.
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