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Grendal · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject:

How old are you 25 going on 13?

What has that got to do with anything? Do you really believe everything you see, feel, touch, smell, and hear?

That is the eonic question. Mankind has always looked up into the heavens and awed at it. Don't duck out with a scientific recourse. Telling me the the age of the universe. So what?

That speck of dust can throw a whole planet off its orbit, maybe even contribute to a supernova, who knows? Our minds are not built to comprehend this vastness of infinity and beyond. Don't get me wrong Dr. Hawkins is a great thinker and I respect his points of view just like I respect spiritual points of view.

Please....

Regards.

Grendal

007 · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject:

johnslat · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject:

Dear Deicide,

The truth is - we can never know the truth, at least regarding what you're writing about.

The truth is - people people believe whatever it is that they think will make them feel happy/happier - and that includes even your beliefs.

The operative word is whatever they THINK will make them happy/happier.

Some people actually do find "happiness" in despair, hard though that must be for most of us to fathom.

Regards,
John

Deicide · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject:

johnslat · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject:

Dear Deicide,

And I often wish I had the "comfort" of a faith that promised me eternal life.

But I don't - so, like Rabelais, on my deathbed, I'll think this: �I am off in search of a great perhaps.�

Regards,
John

Deicide · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:14 am Post subject:

Amy Youngblood · Joined: 15 Nov 2009 Posts: 7

Thanks alot guys ... you still haven't answered my questions... I'm seriously interested in moving to the Middle East and all you have done is turn it into a religious/political rant. cheers.

Deicide · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject:

trapezius · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject:

With such open denigration of Islam, I am shocked that this thread is still not locked, or at least that the offensive posts have been removed. I believe in freedom of speech, but this board is not for that purpose, and anyway, this board is for a certain purpose, and discussing religion, even politely, is not one of them.

I intend to respond fully to you, Amy, in a few hours from now. If this thread has been locked by then, I will make a new thread to respond to your points.

johnslat · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject:

Well, before it gets locked, let me quote Einstein:

"The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer."

http://atheism.about.com/od/einsteingodreligion/tp/Was-Einstein-an-Atheist-.htm

And, loathe though I am to dispute Al, I would use the word "offensive" rather than "funny."

Regards,
John

Deicide · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject:

Deicide · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject:

johnslat · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject:

Dear Deicide,

You can non-believe in as many - or as few - gods as you want.

Others can believe in as many - or as few - as they want.

No one here is pushing their beliefs upon you.

Why not return the favor?

Militant atheism is as repugnant to me as militant __________ (fill in the blank with any religion.)

Let's hear from Al once more:

"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."
Regards,
John

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

The Sage of Santa Fe hits the spot...............AGAIN !
Thank you Mr Slattery !