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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject: Facebook and students? |
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HAve any of you run into this? I've had students, AND their parents request me to be their friends on FB. Seems like you can't escape students
I had some on FB, but recently deleted them, seems a bit too much. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Dear naturegorl321,
My personal opinion is that it's NOT a good idea to "friend" any current student on facebook - or any other "social networking site."
Same with the parents of current students.
Better safe than sorry.
Regards,
John |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hike your privacy settings up so you're hard to find. If they don't SEE you on facebook, how could they know you have it?
I use facebook only slightly- hadn't wanted to have it at all. But I would refuse friend requests from students and their folks, in any case. I've used yahoo groups and other things for classroom purposes; if you have a separate facebook or whatever for student purposes, no harm no foul. I may be trying out twitter on our next TESOL course. It's clear that some of these social networking things may have teaching applications.
But you have to be careful- I don't want my social friends, who might tag me in photos of a bachelor party, accessing the same page as my clients or professional contacts.
Best,
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nickpellatt
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1522
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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I've only had students in two places. The first of which is China, which has now blocked Facebook. That eliminates any of my Chinese students.
I have had some German students from my summer school add me on Facebook after they have returned home. They normally add me, and tag one of the class photos with me in, and then forget about me. I normally unfriend them after a month or so. Not because I am worried about them seeing something they shouldnt (my facebook doesnt have anything like that on it) but because we dont interact. I am forever unfriending people I dont speak to, and they fall into that category.
I dont think I would accept them if they were still in my classes though. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hm, I'll have to check out the privacy settings. Most of my kids are only waist high though I have gone and delted most people as well. I had abuot 150, now only 50, don't want eveyrone having access to all my photos and info.
For professional stuff, I use Linked, but there are no photos there, I think. |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: Facebook and (ex-) student friends |
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nickpellatt wrote: |
China (...) has now blocked Facebook. That eliminates any of my Chinese students. |
Same with me.
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I have had some German students from my summer school add me on Facebook after they have returned home. They normally add me, and tag one of the class photos with me in, and then forget about me. I normally unfriend them after a month or so. |
I taught at two summer schools in England this past summer and it never even occurred to me or my young students, some as young as 10 but none of whom were Chinese, that I would want them as friends on Facebook! Perhaps that is fortunate for two reasons: one, I would feel uncomfortable about having young kids as "friends" (indeed, even if Facebook were not blocked in China, I would not even accept their request, as I would consider it unprofessional), and, two, Facebook is blocked in China! At least that's one benefit of having access to the website blocked - you've got a handy alibi!
Let us also not forget that, increasingly in the U.K. at least, it is becoming ever more dangerous for adults old enough to be their parents to have children (bar genuine close relatives, perhaps) who are a generation or more younger than they as friends on Facebook, otherwise they run the risk of being labelled as p(a)edophiles.
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I don't think I would accept them if they were still in my classes, though. |
Nor me, whether the site is blocked or unblocked, and I would tell them straight. In any case, considering I see my students every working day of the week, why would they want me to be their friend on Facebook during their course of study, anyway? |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Absolutely not. Facebook is for my friends. Since I've got my mom on my list, I already have to watch what I post--it'd be way too hard with conservative students!
I don't give out my cell # or personal email either. They know where my office is, and they know they can send me messages via Moodle or my university email. Really, I love my job and 99% or my students are absolute sweethearts, but I need a clear separation between work and fun.
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X-Bar Theory
Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:06 am Post subject: |
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I simply created a second account for just students...that way my personal life stays personal...no need to change settings just for them or having to worry about them seeing something I don't want them to see. |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: Two accounts may be discovered through a quick search! |
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X-Bar Theory wrote: |
I simply created a second account for just students...that way my personal life stays personal...no need to change settings just for them or having to worry about them seeing something I don't want them to. |
The problem I see with this is that, if you use your real name or else the same moniker twice, a search for it may reveal your two accounts!  |
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X-Bar Theory
Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Two accounts may be discovered through a quick search! |
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Chris_Crossley wrote: |
X-Bar Theory wrote: |
I simply created a second account for just students...that way my personal life stays personal...no need to change settings just for them or having to worry about them seeing something I don't want them to. |
The problem I see with this is that, if you use your real name or else the same moniker twice, a search for it may reveal your two accounts!  |
That's true, but I do not hide from them the fact that I've got two accounts. I explained to them that I would be creating one just for them and that I would not add them to my main account. I have had a couple of them request friendship through my main account and I simply told them that I would add them to my student account. |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Two accounts may be discovered through a quick search! |
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X-Bar Theory wrote: |
I explained to them that I will be creating one just for them and that I will not add them to my main account. I have had a couple of them request friendship through my main account and I simply told them that I will add them to my student account. |
Indeed, but what is to stop them gaining access to your main account? If there is nothing, one must hope that there is nothing controversial there that could be used against you. Students do have a habit of telling their friends, parents and even other teachers what's on one's account, and anything that parents might consider to be unacceptable on a personal open-access account could give grounds for complaint. What may be acceptable in one country, especially one's own, may be considered unacceptable in another, especially the one you are living and working in now. One has to pay attention to cultural sensitivities, certainly. |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:45 am Post subject: |
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denise posted
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Absolutely not. Facebook is for my friends. |
You have friends ? I have colleagues, friends, and my sisters on mine.
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Since I've got my mom on my list, I already have to watch what I post--it'd be way too hard with conservative students! |
I think my students couldn't be more conservative than my parents, but since my parents are not very Internet savy, I have no worries.
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I don't give out my cell # or personal email either. |
I have given out both, as I meet students for parties sometimes as well as receive email from students about assignments and ex-students' news. As to email, I don't use the uni ones, as I have a hard enough time checking the regular accounts I use. As a matter of fact, I haven't activated my uni ones. |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:52 am Post subject: Blocking means no contact on Facebook! |
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Since I never put my email address on my Facebook page, nobody who wants to contact me can get through to me because the website is blocked in China.
As it so happens, one of my old primary (= elementary) school friends whom I have not seen in 32 years tried to contact me through Facebook only this week. I know this because Facebook does send emails to members, telling them of a contact attempt, and they are not being blocked since they go to my private email account. Unfortunately, neither of us has each other's contact details so he may think that failure on my part to reply is my way of being rude to him, even though I would have no reason whatsoever to be: we shared an intense interest in military aeroplanes, for a start!
Frankly, this continual blocking of both Facebook and YouTube is absurd. When are the PRC government going to realise that this does not profit them anything? They did the same to Wikipedia so many times that the government finally unblocked it for good. Then again, it could be blocked again tomorrow - or even later today - for whatever reason... |
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X-Bar Theory
Joined: 07 Jan 2009 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Two accounts may be discovered through a quick search! |
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Chris_Crossley wrote: |
Indeed, but what is to stop them gaining access to your main account? If there is nothing, one must hope that there is nothing controversial there that could be used against you. Students do have a habit of telling their friends, parents and even other teachers what's on one's account, and anything that parents might consider to be unacceptable on a personal open-access account could give grounds for complaint. What may be acceptable in one country, especially one's own, may be considered unacceptable in another, especially the one you are living and working in now. One has to pay attention to cultural sensitivities, certainly. |
I have my privacy settings set so that only 'friends' have access to my file. Nobody from common groups or networks can view my file either. You can't even view my friends list unless you're a 'friend'. Too many people have their accounts open for the whole world to see...some don't even realize it. Nonetheless, even if they were computer whizzes and found some way to hack into my account, there would be nothing damaging. It's best to play it safe either way. |
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Elkythedogsperson

Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 74 Location: West Java, Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: |
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My school solved the issue for teachers by making it policy that teachers could not have students as friends on social network sites. Official reason was to avoid the appearance of favoritism (unofficial reason to avoid the chance teachers may have inappropriate contact with students or perhaps take students as privates.)
The policy gives the teachers a good out though when students ask. |
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