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yaramaz

So... how do you feel about the Ak party sweeping through the elections like so many mustached Lords of the Ring? Here in Kayseri, they got 73%. Shocked

The funny thing is, even my friends who dont agree with them at all politically say they respect them because they actually get the job done instead of just yakking, and also, they are 'clean' (i take that to mean scandal free).

I bring this up because my mother called the other night, quite worried, because the way it is being reported in the N. American media is that the fundamentalists aretaking over Turkey, with Al Qaeda being the next logical step.

Opinions?

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

I have definitely been out of turkey for toooooooo long. Yaramaz, you used the words 'clean' and 'politics' in the same sentence. Things haven't changed that much in the 18 months I've been away, surely? Are there any other major changes that I should be made aware of that have happened in this time period? I'm not going to go through this reverse culture shock thing I keep reading about, am I?

yaramaz · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject:

To be honest, I was quite suspicious when I heard the words 'clean' and 'honest' and so forth used re: politicians as well... hence my posting. I was hoping y'all knew something the my friends and I dont know. I polled a wide variety of people andalthough most of my friends disagreed wholeheartedly with their platform they thought they were pretty trustworthy compared with the other options.

Eeek.

Going to go don me headscarf now that the Aks have won the majority in my town... Shocked

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

Yaramaz, you're doing it again. I can sort of get used to the idea of 'clean' and 'politics' in the same sentence but 'trustworthy'??? I know Turkey is a land of paradoxes but surely you are now dalga geciyor The next time I ask for a doner kebab will there be any meat in it?

FGT · Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 762 Location: Turkey

Most of Turkey seems keen to join the EU (God knows why, but thereby hangs another thread). Until recently it looked almost impossible, but now, the party with the mostest (acceptible to Europeans) is also the party with the "fundamentalist" lable.
Does not compute but is happening. This country is truly an enigma.
That's why I like it. It's interesting. So far the AK party hasn't forced anyone into headscarves. Will they? My hunch is no.

Opinions?

Mike_2003 · Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 344 Location: Bucharest, Romania

vre · Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 371

I think people here are just so afraid that an Islamic state will be made. Of course this wont happen. People are paranoid. I think Ak is doing a better job of running the country. Let's face it, it could do with some honest - ish politicians for a change! But no one will ever replace the Ataturk principles and I dont believe that AK is trying to do that anyway!

vre · Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 371

how can I make a nice little picture thingy for my name tag:) (bloody newcomers huh?)

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

Welcome aboard

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yaramaz · Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:40 pm Post subject:

Indeed, welcome aboard the Ataboy Express! We're a bit less exciting now that ghost has flown away (read: fewer battles to the death) but its always a jolly place to come home to.

My Bataturk-radar picked up a B'At signal (that would be Curiosity Bey, dmb) indicating you needed help with your avatar... I am lazy so I'll just cut and paste the advice I gave in the general section. If you want the whole post with the info, go to the Avatar thread.

How to get a nice picture by your name:

find nice picture on the internet
right click mouse
scroll down to bottom, to Properties
Copy address in properties, or at the very least jot it down
Paste or type URL in the appropriate spot in profile page.

Kolay gelsin!

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

Hurray. Bataturk saves the day again!!!

yaramaz · Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:14 pm Post subject:

Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah Batman (that would be the one out by Diyarbakir--- a long way to fly in for an avatar--- but by golly, its worth it!)

Otterman Ollie · Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:27 am Post subject: AK Party

Hi
I 've heard quite a few tales about this lot most of it is positive but for the people of Izmir its a big turn off ,they just see them as the other side of the moon (the dark side ) .
Apparently a number of defectors from other parties got voted in on the AK ticket, wether their alliegence sticks with them remains to be seen but it would also appear that for a lot of the less well off members of the community the promise of cheap bread and low bus fairs is sufficent motivation to give the vote to the AK ,I don't really want to think about the long term outlook unless the others start pulling their fingers out and don't worry about the "fundamentalist " issue the military are watching and waiting for them to put a foot wrong . Headscarves at dawn I should co co .

FGT · Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 762 Location: Turkey

Interesting that you mention "the people of Izmir". I've lived in Izmir for the last 11 years, I choose to live in Izmir because it's easy for a foreigner, it's comfortable. Sometimes I wonder who the foreigner is, though.
Teacher says "I went to Kadifekale", student says "I've never been there because it's dangerous." Teacher says "I've been there many times, I've never had any problems." Student says "It's full of Kurds/ terrorists / criminals etc." Teacher repeats "I've never had any problems" Student repeats.... etc.
Same applies to East Turkey vs West Turkey. I've been there (most) students haven't. But they know best. !????!!!?
The people of Izmir live in an enclave. They are NOT typical Turks. Hence I live here but.......?