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With Malice Toward None



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
johnslat wrote:
Dear WMTN,

Thanks for the suggestion, but what I'm writing now could, I suppose, be called a "moral dilemma" novel - how doing the wrong thing for the right reason can take one down the slippery slope.
The working title is "Natural Causes."

And while I appreciate your kind offer to "demolish" my "ego." I can assure you that life has already done a pretty thorough job of that.

The Pulitzer ceremony? Didn't you mean to write "The Nobel Prize ceremony?"

(As you can see - all I have left is a teeny, mini-ego.)



Regards,
John

Dear JS,
It's wonderful having you here and I hope we will all be here for a reasonably long time. The ego and other allusions were just in jest. "If you meet The Buddha in the street, kill him". Cool
Should life be one of submission, or one of supreme acts of forgivance as was in the case of the Christ, or, of intrepid thought and action? I read the Thomas Wolfe excerpt and what is there on him on Wiki, and separately, Bukowski, too. Intelligent, gifted people, but I think, victims of indecision and drift.
Regards.
WMTN.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear LCK,

Blocked, huh - OK. let's try these:

http://tinyurl.com/ycv6wnj

http://tinyurl.com/ygzmmrz

Given your preference for non-fiction, may I suggest Walker Percy's

The Message in the Bottle: How Que*r Man Is, How Que*r Language Is, and What One Has to Do with the Other. New York: Farrar, Straus, and Giroux, 1975.

Diagnosing the Modern Malaise. New Orleans: Faust, 1985

The Thanatos Syndrome. New York: Farrar, Straus, Giroux, 1987; London: Andre Deutsch, 1987.

Signposts in a Strange Land. New York: Farrar, Straus, and Giroux,1991.

Of his novels, my favorite is

Love in the Ruins: The Adventures of a Bad Catholic at a Time Near the End of the World. New York: Farrar, Straus, Giroux, 1971; London: Eyre and Spottiswoode, 1971.

Dear WMTN,

Regarding Wolfe and Bukowski - perhaps they were "victims of indecision and drift."

But one thing clearly shines through in their writing: they both had a tremendous love of life.

And maybe this could be said of them:

"Wherefore I say unto thee, her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little."

Regards,
John

* the second "e" has been omitted since otherwise the word gets "beeped."
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lazycomputerkids



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
johnslat wrote:

Blocked, huh - OK. let's try these:
Nope and nope. I'd wager the domain of tinyurl is blocked and wrongly considered a 'work around' the filters. Not that tinyurl was designed for anything other than the shortening of addresses. But it's probably been used by compounders in the past as a work around to share pr0n.
All of the non-fiction titles are intriguing and Life in the Ruins is so often referenced the title is vaguely familiar to me. Great suggestions. There's no end to the number of meaningful works of literature. No matter how much you read, there is more.
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With Malice Toward None



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
johnslat wrote:
Dear LCK,

Blocked, huh - OK. let's try these:

http://tinyurl.com/ycv6wnj

http://tinyurl.com/ygzmmrz

Given your preference for non-fiction, may I suggest Walker Percy's

The Message in the Bottle: How Que*r Man Is, How Que*r Language Is, and What One Has to Do with the Other. New York: Farrar, Straus, and Giroux, 1975.

Diagnosing the Modern Malaise. New Orleans: Faust, 1985

The Thanatos Syndrome. New York: Farrar, Straus, Giroux, 1987; London: Andre Deutsch, 1987.

Signposts in a Strange Land. New York: Farrar, Straus, and Giroux,1991.

Of his novels, my favorite is

Love in the Ruins: The Adventures of a Bad Catholic at a Time Near the End of the World. New York: Farrar, Straus, Giroux, 1971; London: Eyre and Spottiswoode, 1971.

Dear WMTN,

Regarding Wolfe and Bukowski - perhaps they were "victims of indecision and drift."

But one thing clearly shines through in their writing: they both had a tremendous love of life.

And maybe this could be said of them:

"Wherefore I say unto thee, her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little."

* the second "e" has been omitted since otherwise the word gets "beeped."


Dear JS,
Thank you very much. It's a travesty of our times that some of the most creative geniuses (I feel) just dry up like rivulets in desert sand. We had this poet in my country who wrote poetry of exceptional beauty and honesty, who still has some of his work reprinted every year 60 years after his death, but when he was alive was notorious for his drunkenness, neglect of wife and children, and total disregard for the society and himself.

Regards.
WMTN.

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With Malice Toward None



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear JS,
I suppose that's what Jesus says in the Mary of Magdalene context? Sorry, I am not Christian in a tech context but definitely would like to be enlightened.
Regards.
WMTN.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear WMTN,

Yes, it's from Luke's Gospel:

http://bible.cc/luke/7-47.htm

I believe that at least some (maybe many) "creative" people have more than their share of "personal demons."

It's likely not applicable to all artists, but I've always found the artist/oyster comparison apt:

Pearls are the result of a biological process -- the oyster's way of protecting itself from foreign substances.

Likewise, artists produce art in an attempt to "purge" an inner irritation.

Regards,
John
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