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lundjstuart



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Location: Warsaw, Poland

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject: Sound dubbing Reply with quote

Does anybody know of any English women between the ages of 30-35 that would like to do some sound dubbing?

The dubbing will be for a museum in Warsaw.

If you know of somebody or if you are the somebody, please message me.
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justflyingin



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in shock that they allow such open "age discrimination" in this day and age.

Why does it matter whether the woman is between 30 and 35 as long as her voice is good? Smile Am I missing something?
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lundjstuart



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe because it's due to the fact of voice maturity. They don't want the voice to sound young and juvenile but also not like an old lady's scratchy voice.

If you think outside of the box sometimes, you wouldn't need to ask this question in the first place!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Political correctness isn't applicable in many situations Very Happy

Although in a practical sense, I don't think there is any real distinction in women's voices between 30 and 45 - the age range seems unnecessarily limited.
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Scawie



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off topic:

I see adverts all the time
- "We're looking for a woman to work behind the counter."
- "We're looking for a man to work in the bakery."

Would never get away with that kind of thing back in PC Blighty.
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hrvatski



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, I like the Poles' upfrontness about it all, they like to do what the Pommies etc. can only think nowadays Wink

Actually in general I find people in English speaking countries to be passive agressive back-stabbing two-faced mindfucks after Poland. The Poles wear their emotions and opinions on their sleeves and it can be grating at times, but at least you know where you stand with them.
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justflyingin



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lundjstuart wrote:


If you think outside of the box sometimes, you wouldn't need to ask this question in the first place!


I am quite able to think outside the box. I think that between 30 and 35 is a small range. A smoker at 30 may sound like another woman at 50. Smile

I've been amazed since I've been here how people advertise, "wanted, attractive, young, female, energetic, etc." The whole things looks quite strange/suspicious to me. Sometimes they seem less about the actual qualifications and more about age/looks. Makes me wonder (NOT THIS ad...but in general here in Poland when I see some of the ads). Actually, I didn't know it was legal to discrimate like this.

I could understand easily if they are looking for a mature voice...then they can say to anyone who doesn't fit ... "you don't fit the voice profile of what we are looking for" whether it is pitched too high, too low, too tinny, too old, smoker's scratchy, etc." But to just say "between 30 and 35 seems so "in the box". Wink
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lundjstuart



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work at a sound dubbing studio, the owner asked me if I knew anybody that will fit the profile. The first sitting is a sound test, they will take that sound test and send it to the museum and they will give the yea or nea! I didn't make the restrictions, I just follow them.

Think about it, it's for SOUND DUBBING!!! They will use the voice, not the face of the person!! If they need a kids voice that is about 10 years old, they aren't going to look for somebody that is 30 to do the voice but rather somebody that is about 10 years old!! Appearantly you don't think outside of the box because you would've thought about this too!!
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hrvatski wrote:
Actually in general I find people in English speaking countries to be passive agressive back-stabbing two-faced mindfucks after Poland. The Poles wear their emotions and opinions on their sleeves and it can be grating at times, but at least you know where you stand with them.


here, here. Wink

As for the grating, I remember after first arriving in Poland I was constantly on the lookout for fists to fly - People seemed to be shouting and gesticulating a lot. Not very common in the US - things escalate.

But in the Land of the Poles people tend to shout it out, get it off their chests, and then that Polish smile creeps onto their faces and things cool off.
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hrvatski



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it's good that way in Poland. I think psychologically it's a lot healthier than bottling everything up and masking annoyance or anger, which is par for the course at least in Australia.
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justflyingin



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lundjstuart wrote:


Think about it, it's for SOUND DUBBING!!! They will use the voice, not the face of the person!! If they need a kids voice that is about 10 years old, they aren't going to look for somebody that is 30 to do the voice but rather somebody that is about 10 years old!! Appearantly you don't think outside of the box because you would've thought about this too!!


Are you talking to me? Maybe you didn't read my reply.

I didn't think that you could tell a 30 y-o by her voice alone. Amazing. What if she's 29? Has her birthday in 5 months... What about 36 because she had her birthday 5 months ago? Hmmm. That's outside the box. Your box seems to be quite small.

I think they should just have "looking for a mature female English voice" if that is what they are looking for and try out many. Better yet, let people come in (adults) and be auditioned without anyone asking her age. It would be curious if they did it without looking at the person if they would always choose a person between 30-35.

As to the Poles yelling at each other. I don't think they should yell at each other, but I'd rather they yell at me than plot to kill me later with a back shot.

But if you don't think they aren't backstabbing, you don't know them very well, IMO. They do plenty of that. That is a world-wide problem and not limited to any one country, including the US, Australia, or Poland. I've found people to be quite similar around the world with regards to this issue.
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hrvatski



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno, with back-stabbers from English speaking countries I can really get sucked in thinking we get along fine, only later to be shocked to discover the other person completely has it in for me.

With most Poles I have never experienced that level of convincing deceit, usually I can tell if something's not clicking in the relationship. Curiously enough the Poles who can pull it off well are the ones who've spent some time in the USA or UK and liked it a lot, adopting the accent and culture to boot.
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The difference is that with Poles a disagreement tends to get resolved then and there. There may be some harsh words, but afterwords generally you can trust the person.

English natives tend to pretend to make up, even go out of their way to make the other person think it's all water under the bridge - and THEN wait for an opportune moment to completely f**k the other person over.

More than a few times I've gone to meet a Polish person after a disagreement preparing myself for an ambush and been surprised (and relieved) to find none come.

This is when I begin plotting the poor Polish chump's utter demise. Twisted Evil Wink
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hrvatski



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes we do have a competitive advantage over Poles in that regard Very Happy
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