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More Money in South Korea or Taiwan?
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the jobs advertised on Tealit but I believe there are still other jobs that are not filled easily. Maybe the most difficult part is where to find a job.
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Rooster_2006



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
Maybe the jobs advertised on Tealit but I believe there are still other jobs that are not filled easily. Maybe the most difficult part is where to find a job.
This is true. I had a job within 72 hours of being fired from Hess, and it was not advertised anywhere on Tealit or Kaohsiung Living. I knew someone.

There are places that don't have a million teachers lining up, but they don't advertise.

Perhaps the best way to go job hunting is to rent a bicycle for the day and hit every street downtown and write down phone numbers. Get twenty or so phone numbers. Possibly more effective than trying to compete with a zillion people for the few job listings on Tealit/Kaohsiung Living.
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nicam



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I can't speak for Kaohsiung, but in Taipei I think many foreign teachers pound the pavement going from buxiban to buxiban with a load of CVs. My man did this, must have hit about 100 of them. Got some subbing work, quite a bit of it actually and it's kept us going for a while, but nothing permanent. There's nothing wrong with him either, he wore a suit, is quite young, handsome, experienced, and clean-cut...

At one buxiban he was told by personnel that several others just like him had come in that same day to drop off their CVs. some front desk personnel were shaking their heads 'no' as soon as they saw a foreign teacher coming, didn't even let him in the door.

It's a jungle out here.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I can't speak for Kaohsiung, but in Taipei I think many foreign teachers pound the pavement going from buxiban to buxiban with a load of CVs. My man did this, must have hit about 100 of them. Got some subbing work, quite a bit of it actually and it's kept us going for a while, but nothing permanent. There's nothing wrong with him either, he wore a suit, is quite young, handsome, experienced, and clean-cut...

At one buxiban he was told by personnel that several others just like him had come in that same day to drop off their CVs. some front desk personnel were shaking their heads 'no' as soon as they saw a foreign teacher coming, didn't even let him in the door.


Interesting. I keep getting part time jobs.

One problem is often visas. Some schools have work but cannot offer a work permit. If you already have a work permit you can work there.
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parrothead



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:

One problem is often visas. Some schools have work but cannot offer a work permit. If you already have a work permit you can work there.


Just curious. Why can't they offer work permits if they are in need of teachers?
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JZer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are kindergartens or don't have a buxiban license to hire foreigners.
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Splenda



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan seems like a complete no-go. Not enough work, too much scrambling around for too few hours. I can't envision going half way around the world to put yourself in such a position unless you are sufficiently well-off financially and/or coming to Taiwan is largely for play time and a fun travel experience.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Splenda, I don't know what your job is but teaching English in Taiwan beats sitting in an office 40 hours a week.
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nicam



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Splenda, I don't know what your job is but teaching English in Taiwan beats sitting in an office 40 hours a week.


True, but I'm starting to feel like a lazy s*@# loser scraping by on a measly $1,300 USD a month because it beats sitting in an office.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in the US I might make $4000 a month and be scrapping around to survive. 25% tax, gasoline, car insurance, maintaining a car, higher cost for an apartment or mortgage, etc.
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Rooster_2006



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess my big question is "is Japan better or worse?"

You see, I can survive like this indefinitely in Taiwan. $600 a month paycheck for 11-hour weeks? Sure it sucks, but I'm living on like $400 a month, so I'm actually still saving. I may not have much money for entertainment, but hitting the beach three minutes from my pad is a great form of entertainment, and it's free...

What I'm worried about is that I go to Japan next year and find that the eikaiwa jobs are being filled by people with MA TESOLs and home country teaching qualifications.

Which is harder, Kaohsiung or middle-of-nowhere Japan?

Oh, and let's not forget folks -- you can pick up extra cash on the Internet. Sure the pay for telecommuting jobs isn't great, but it's not much worse than 550 NTD for an hour of teaching and half an hour of prep and appeasing the boss. Are you good at programming? Write some shareware and sell it. Are you good at teaching? Tutor some students in South Korea over Skype. Do you have no skills whatsoever? Try telemarketing. Not all the work you do in Taiwan has to be English teaching...
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rooster_2006,

Apply for a job in Japan before you arrive. You will need a B.A in Japan to get a job. You can apply to be an ALT in a high school. 250,000 Yen a month.
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