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Are there any good language schools in Mexico?
Yes, just like anything else.
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Yes, but I haven't found one yet.
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I hope there is...
23%
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Not one I've ever seen.
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No way Jose!
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Language Schools Reply with quote

Hello and Happy Holidays!

I am posting this to talk about good language schools in Mexico.
A language school is just that. Where a teacher gives classes in one location and is not a university, colegio, business etc.

If you know of any good language schools in Mexico feel free to please post names, addresses, pay rates, benefit packages etc.
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted "Not one I've ever seen" judging by the 5 cowboy outfits I've worked for in SLP.

I'd only recommend these places if you're a party teacher, backpacker or short-termer. You'll have a whale of a time.

It's not absolutely essential to begin your tefl career in these places though. Yes, it is easier but you can get better jobs without having worked in these places.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Where are they? Reply with quote

Any takers?

If you know of a good, decent langauge school anywhere in Mexico (All 31 states plus DF) please post it here!

Please no: Split shifts, under the table pay, no contracts offered, late pay or underpaid, no benefits, no FM-3, etc "Cracker Jack" schools.

Please post professional, honest, ethical language schools that are respected and well spoken of by both teachers and students alike.
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Where are they? Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:


Please no: Split shifts, under the table pay, no contracts offered, late pay or underpaid, no benefits, no FM-3, etc "Cracker Jack" schools.

Please post professional, honest, ethical language schools that are respected and well spoken of by both teachers and students alike.

This is going to be a tall order.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could nominate mine but I'd be lying!

Personally, I'd never work for a uni because:

- I doubt they'd have me with no qualifications
- I hate teaching teenagers and kidults
- I don't even like teaching much!!!

Language schools have been good for me because, although I've suffered, I've used my intelligence to take the good things out of each one, apply it to the next post, build up my skills and experience, and finally land land a plum job that means I'm paid a salary to do what I do best with limited teaching. That's all I ever wanted really!
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Where are they? Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:


Please no: Split shifts, under the table pay, no contracts offered, late pay or underpaid, no benefits, no FM-3, etc "Cracker Jack" schools.

Please post professional, honest, ethical language schools that are respected and well spoken of by both teachers and students alike.

This is going to be a tall order.


Is it a "tall-order"?

But isn't really just the basics here?

Why is it that ESL teachers (mostly foreign ones) get the short end of the proverbial ESL/TEFL stick in Mexico?

Earn a fare wage, decent hours, benefits as perscribed under the Mexican FEDERAL Labor Laws, be paid on time and in full, receive a FM-3 in order to work legally and deal with management who are professional, honest and ethical with their dealings with both teachers, employees and students.

I expect and would receive as much in fast-food in the US. And fast-food in the US has a clear career path with the ability to become a general manager in just a few years of work.
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hlamb



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked for one my first year in Mexico that had an FM3, which they helped me get, and paid for, paid vacations, no split shifts, etc. etc. All done by the book and then some.

But I was unhappy because I was forced to translate everything into Spanish for the students, even ones who'd been there for four years. To keep students paying their money, I had to forsake everything I know to be true about teaching English. It was not a fun place to work, and the other teachers agreed with me.

My next two years I worked for a school with some interesting admin issues, split shifts, no benefits, no FM3, etc. and loved it because the curriculum worked for me and the students, I had freedom to teach with creativity, as long as the students learned, and it was a great atmosphere. Sure, lots of teachers didn't stay long, but some of us did, and the students benefited. So doing it by the book is not always the best option.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Might I have some more please? Reply with quote

hlamb wrote:
I worked for one my first year in Mexico that had an FM3, which they helped me get, and paid for, paid vacations, no split shifts, etc. etc. All done by the book and then some.

But I was unhappy because I was forced to translate everything into Spanish for the students, even ones who'd been there for four years. To keep students paying their money, I had to forsake everything I know to be true about teaching English. It was not a fun place to work, and the other teachers agreed with me.

My next two years I worked for a school with some interesting admin issues, split shifts, no benefits, no FM3, etc. and loved it because the curriculum worked for me and the students, I had freedom to teach with creativity, as long as the students learned, and it was a great atmosphere. Sure, lots of teachers didn't stay long, but some of us did, and the students benefited. So doing it by the book is not always the best option.


Do you mind giving us a few details about the schools themselves?
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