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Cleverlearn Ltd. Ho Chi Minh City
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muttley



Joined: 17 Sep 2009
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Location: U.K.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Cleverlearn Ltd. Ho Chi Minh City Reply with quote
Could anyone give me any advice or provide comments about Cleverlearn Ltd, Vietnam? That is, their reputation, teacher training, resources, etc. I can find very little information in this regard.

Any information would be much appreciated.
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CThomas



Joined: 21 Oct 2009
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Location: HCMC, Vietnam
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's a franchise, so it depends on the specific location. SaigonESL.com appears to regard it well in general. I've talked to the owner of the one not in Q7. He is Vietnamese and seems to be pretty fair minded and helpful. Don't know the specific location -- there are multiple -- though. What location are you interested in?
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muttley



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
CThomas wrote:
It's a franchise, so it depends on the specific location. SaigonESL.com appears to regard it well in general. I've talked to the owner of the one not in Q7. He is Vietnamese and seems to be pretty fair minded and helpful. Don't know the specific location -- there are multiple -- though. What location are you interested in?


Thanks CThomas. The location is Ward 6, District 3. I'll check out the URL you provided.

Regards,
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Green Acres



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dist 3 is their main branch. They have their fingers into everything, basically and their students are varied. They have had some changes in the past and at times were on the brink of bankruptcy, but I think they have got themselves together now.

It's not a bad place to work and many teachers have been there for longer than a year, so it can't be terrible.
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snollygoster



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject: Cleverlearn Reply with quote
I have not worked there, but I was offered a senior position. I did not accept it for personal reasons that had nothing to do with Cleverlearn. My impression from what I saw and heard from people who work there is that it is quite good. Great facilities. I was impressed with the management and support.
I think you can't go far wrong.
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muttley



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you all. I'm hoping they'll get back me too soon and offer me a contract. I'll be new to Vietnam, let alone Ho Chi Minh City, so I'd looking forward to a new start & keeping an open mind regarding work & life there.

Cheers
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Mattingly



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
muttley wrote:
Thank you all. I'm hoping they'll get back me too soon and offer me a contract. I'll be new to Vietnam, let alone Ho Chi Minh City, so I'd looking forward to a new start & keeping an open mind regarding work & life there.


So, you aren't in Vietnam, yet?

IMO, I think you should come to Vietnam first and then look around. When schools sign a contract with you abroad, it gives them the advantage, and they can low-ball you.

I'm not saying CL is doing this, and you don't have to follow through with anything when you arrive, but when you are on the ground and in person, you have more leverage.

Good luck, and keep us posted.
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Zembekiko1Aegean



Joined: 06 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can expect to be paid about $15. per hour. But only if you have experience. Not the greatest in that respect, but their campus on N. Thi Minh kai is supurb, just across from the park. Look around.
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muttley



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ahhh, good point. I'd assumed you needed to be sponsored by a company first, so they will provide Work Permit hence visa to enter Vietnam.

I'm doing things a little conservatively. Is there another method, i.e. hang around using a tourist visa and find work that way? A fun way of doing it but I'm a little green in this regard.

Thanks guys and have good Christmas!
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