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john1970
Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: PMU Khobar |
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I would greatly appreciate it if any one can give me real and sincere advice on how good/bad PMU is with regard to housing, admin, job security...ect
I have read some old posts and none seem to be encouraging..some as fresh as December 2009
please I would appreciate your help |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have read some old posts and none seem to be encouraging..some as fresh as December 2009 |
There's a message there, surely. What more do you need people to tell you? |
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john1970
Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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thanks cleopetra...but have you been there before
they seem to be so professional in their correspondence and interviews |
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Mia Xanthi

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 955 Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:53 am Post subject: |
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The people with whom you have been corresponding and interviewing are indeed professional...and many of them are fine individuals as well. Unfortunately, those are not the people who make decisions about your salary or your housing or your visas. It is the Saudi administrators who make those decisions. The nice professional people are just intermediaries who have no real power to help you out with anything important.
PMU had some of the best and most professional colleagues and Western supervisors I have ever had the pleasure of working with. It is just too bad that the admin does everything within their power to run these good people off. |
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john1970
Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Mia
Thanks for your reply, I have really been confused and unable to make up my mind.
I have read on this site horrible stories about how bad the houses/compounds are. Those were posed this month, so I bet the situation hasn't improved.
In addition, I have no idea how long it takes for the saudi visa to be issued/carved on passports. |
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Kalima Shahada

Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Posts: 198 Location: I live in a house, but my home is in the stable.
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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john1970 wrote: |
thanks cleopetra...but have you been there before
they seem to be so professional in their correspondence and interviews |
Satan can be very deceiving.  |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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john1970 wrote: |
I have read on this site horrible stories about how bad the houses/compounds are. Those were posed this month, so I bet the situation hasn't improved. |
After you have read posts like this with up to date information like these, the norm for improvement is a couple years to never. Even if these posts were a year old, everyone here would tell you to stay far far away.
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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John
You do not have enough posts to receive pm's. Some posters might care to send you information that they are not prepared to post in public. |
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desultude

Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 614
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I respectfully disagree about the professionalism of the westerners in the administration at PMU. I received a PM from someone the other day who has been on hold since March, and the western staff at PMU diddle and dawdle.
One woman who is working there now was strung along for almost a year before being hired.
The previous dean, who, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't been replaced, was incredibly unprofessional. He showed extreme favoritism to some less than stellar faculty, and was punitive and abusive to other faculty who were very professional and who have gone on to do quite well in other jobs in the Gulf. There was a mass exodus of female faculty under his administration.
The female western administrators have no power or position whatsoever.
The current top male administrator for the prep program is considered to be a bully. He also has little administrative experience as well as dubious credentials.
I may get bashed for saying this stuff, but it is, in my opinion, true. |
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Mia Xanthi

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 955 Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I received a PM from someone the other day who has been on hold since March, and the western staff at PMU diddle and dawdle.
One woman who is working there now was strung along for almost a year before being hired. |
While Desultude and I may disagree about the professionalism of the Western admin at this university, we certainly do agree about the above quoted phrases. The state of the Human Resources office at PMU is always one of complete disarray, and the biggest danger to the applicant is that you can make a commitment to the job, quit your job at home, sell your house, get rid of your car.....and then hear NOTHING from PMU about your job for months. Many people have been left stranded in difficult circumstances for long periods of time (even with kids out of school for a whole semester) while PMU Human Resources dithers about getting your visa or even whether they want to come at all anyway. IMHO, it is not worth the risk. |
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john1970
Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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thank you all for your replies
I will defenitely not approach that place
the riskiest thing is to quit your job, commit yourself for the new post and then hear nothing
thanks all |
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