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thewall

Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:04 am Post subject: UOH and M-Trading |
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I would like to express my thanks for reading my post. Now I'm pretty sure that you've heard all kinds of horrid things about UOH and M-Trading, which would cause any person to shy away from the situation or job offer. Hence I'm here to clear things up!!
One of the most important things here is to take it easy. Yes the local management is unorganized according to Western standards. A group of people and I weren't picked up at the airport on time, as a matter of fact I don't think M-Trading informed UOH that anyone was arriving. However, before my departure I was given a contact number in case any such thing had happened. When the first group of foreigners arrived, housing wasn't allocated immediately and this upset many people. However, we were placed in a hotel for that time being until proper accommodation was provided.
The first 2 weeks of university were a bit hectic. We didn't have classes to teach and all the students were coming back from Ramadan and Eid break. So as you might tell most of the students don't really want to come back to school, college, university. I mean we have all done this in the past and it shouldn't be such a BIG deal. Most of the students don't really want to learn because they are given a monthly allowance to come to school and many of them just don't care. In which case, regardless of the fact that the students are disinterested in learning I perform my best and remind myself that the students who want to learn-learn and the students who don't well they will not pass and should contemplate their actions next time.
The timetables for both the students and teachers have changed numerously because of numerous reasons. Some of these reasons are that the students other subjects clashed with other subjects such as math, public health etc. Teachers whom management had been informed were not coming back suddenly showed up at the university ready to teach. Hence these �old/ new� teachers needed to be slotted into place. The university has been under construction and there haven�t been enough rooms. And last but not least some of the hours were suited for some of the teachers and management has tried to accommodate them as much as possible without casing any conflict.
Regarding the salary from M-Trading and the university, it's usually late from M-trading because the university takes a while to send it to M-trading so that M-trading could send it to the teachers. The latest has been about 2 weeks. I worked overtime and the going rate for overtime is 150 SR an hour. However, I was only paid 50 SR an hour because M-Trading took a percentage and it was written in the contract which I had singed so there really wasn't much I could do about that!! A good thing about working overtime for M-trading was that the overtime was paid to me immediately. As where some of the direct hire for UOH in the past had informed (us) the M-Traders that some teachers were still waiting for there overtime pay since last semester!!
The main point here for me is that I am grateful that I have a job(in these hard times) that pays me (well) at the end of the month.
I hope this has enlightened you in some ways.
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm wondering if this posts needs an "irony" alert...
So... let me get this straight... it is perfectly all right that your employer/recruiter skimmed 2/3rds of your overtime pay because at least you got that miserable pittance quickly...
That's great... M-Trading are obviously saints...
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Nice of them to let you keep that 50 SR. You have obviously found a good master. Let us know when symptoms of Drapetomania or Dyaesthesia Aethiopica develop. |
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tacomaboywa

Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 194 Location: The Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Sounds to me that someone at M-Trading is orchestrating this posting. Maybe they agreed to give you a little back from the 2/3rd they took from you.
M-Trading and most of the recruiters are not going to change and anyone going into a so called "contract" with these people are going to suffer.
By the way, supposedly you are contracted to work for M-Trading and they place you at various locations. If the contract is with them they should be paying you on time without using the excuse of not getting the money from the University on time. If they are not getting the money on time then it is their problem. You have already done your contracted work for M-Trading and should receive the money as promised and on time.
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ntropy

Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Posts: 671 Location: ghurba
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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I would bet my left testosterone that the OP was not written by a native English speaker. Management plant? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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If you read it carefully... what it seems to me to be doing is making a list of all the stupid and abusive things that they are doing... and pretending that they are perfectly acceptable.
I'm still wondering if this is meant as irony... not to be taken quite literally.
If it were a management plant, would it so clearly state how they steal 2/3rd of the overtime pay?
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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M-Trading took a percentage |
You bet they did! 66% if I did the sums correctly.
That's one h**l of a 'percentage! 5% or even 10% might be acceptable (although of course it's much much better not to have a recruiter take any of your hard earned cash at all). But 2/3 of your pay? That's daylight robbery.
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I'm still wondering if this is meant as irony... not to be taken quite literally. |
Yeah it's an odd one. Not sure it's a non-native speaker either, I've seen 'native speaker' teachers write far worse posts. |
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Mia Xanthi

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 955 Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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If you read it carefully... what it seems to me to be doing is making a list of all the stupid and abusive things that they are doing... and pretending that they are perfectly acceptable. |
This is my best guess, too. There is so much passive voice, especially in the paragraph about the overtime pay, that it sounds like the writer is going out of her/his way to not "accuse" anyone by name or even gender-by-pronoun. This is written by a native speaker who is trying to hide his/her voice. |
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thewall

Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Well I was going to reply and say "Hmmm I guess ya'll never know if I'm a native speaker!!!" Thanks Mai. Anyways, what I'm saying is that If you decide to join M-Trading or Al Kam company, this is what might/ will happen to you! Some people deal/ are dealing with it and some have run off.
Why's it matter to anyone if I'm a native speaker or not!!?? This post is to help and guide teachers, not to decipher whose English is the best.
Anyways thanks for the comments
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tacomaboywa

Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 194 Location: The Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: |
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thewall wrote: |
Why's it matter to anyone if I'm a native speaker or not!!?? This post is to help and guide teachers, not to decipher whose English is the best.
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I agree that the important part of this forum is to provide useful information to anyone thinking of teaching in Saudi Arabia. In the case of M-Trading (AKA Virtual Vision AKA Dialdin AKA Al-Kam Trading AKA Tulbah Contracting Services AKA Global Entity Manpower AKA M-Trading Resources of Al-Khobar AKA M-Trading Consulting AKA Mahmoud M. Tulbah Trading Services Est) it is especially important for people to understand what they can expect from them.
Just a reminder to all those perspective teachers out there. Working in Saudi Arabia on anything but an Employment Visa is illegal. M-Trading and other such recruiters bring people over on Business / Government Visit Visas. This allows them to bypass a lot of red-tape and to not provide many of the legal benefits required of companies to provide their employees (such as airfare and so on).
Just make sure you know what you're getting into.
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Now we know why newbies are not supposed to be able to get avatars!! It takes up half of my screen!!
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illeanasky
Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Posts: 19 Location: In your head
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Thewall is finished, Ha ha ha, that's funny!!!! Good thing I didn't post that other pic. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Why post such a huge avatar ?
Inconsiderate ! |
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