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ESL teacher's nationalities and where they tend to teach?
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Kamala



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:21 am    Post subject: ESL teacher's nationalities and where they tend to teach? Reply with quote

I am curious about what countries seem to attract certain nationalities, or if it is just a general mix of Canadian/English/American (Australian?) in some countries?

I've heard that Thailand is very attractive to Brits, and that Americans love Japan...

Any more sweeping generalizations/observations?

thanks
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tomstone



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first got to China, I was told "your face is your resume" (Caucasian). I was told that by a Polish national. It is true. However, when I went to the immigration office in Henan I met two black US females who told me that they had encountered no difficulty obtaining teaching positions at one of the best universities in Zhengzhou. I also met a black man from Ghana who spoke heavily accented English who taught English at a middle school. Never say "never", never say "always".
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in Poland, there are definitely more Brits than Americans, and Aussies are very rare. I'd say at least 4 our of 5 teachers here are British.

When I taught in Bangkok, Thailand recently, the ratio was a bit more even, but I still think there were significantly more British people (especially men) teaching there.

In EU countries, teachers will be predominantly British because visa regulations make it difficult for Americans to work legally.
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Americans lead in numbers in Korea (maybe in the 6-7k range?). Followed by Canadians and Brits if I recall correctly.
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Mrguay84



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking of teaching in Korea or Japan, but I heard that they prefer to hire Americans or Canadians.

So now I'm looking to work in 'real Europe' where as a Brit, I've heard there is more chance of me finding work. So unless things changed, I'm going to be a Brit teaching in the EU in several months time.
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Sef



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came across more Brits in Europe (Russia/Slovakia) and more Americans in Asia (Japan/China) with Aussies popping up everywhere.

I don't know about schools in Asia prefering Americans/Canadians but certainly the students in Japan/China wanted to learn American English - most of the textbooks were in American English too. In Europe it was all British English.
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Kamala



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting, interesting, anybody have observations about S. America and the Mid East?

I can understand the EU having English people, as it's so hard for Americans to get a visa to work there.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Kamala,

The Mideast, in my experience is a smorgasbord of EFL nationalities: Irish, Canadians, UKers, Americans, Australians, South Africans (in no particular order.)
Of course, some employers have "preferences" (I believe, for example BAE, favors UK passport holders,) but regarding numbers, my guess would be:

1. Americans
2. UKers
3. Canadians
4. Australians
5. South Africans

Regards,
John
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santi84



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japan, China, and Korea are usually the target countries for EFL teachers from Western Canada. Since there is such a large population in Vancouver for these nationalities, a lot of the ESL coursework and teaching practicums focus on teaching students from those Asian countries. JET and other programs recruit heavily at our universities, and many high school students already have some exposure to the culture. I took Japanese in high school from grade 9-12, others took Mandarin. Spanish or other romance languages were not offered, except French, which is a mandatory offering in Canada.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

runthegauntlet wrote:
Americans lead in numbers in Korea (maybe in the 6-7k range?). Followed by Canadians and Brits if I recall correctly.


I think there are more Canadians in South Korea than Americans. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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laconic



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
Americans lead in numbers in Korea (maybe in the 6-7k range?). Followed by Canadians and Brits if I recall correctly.


I think there are more Canadians in South Korea than Americans. Someone correct me if I am wrong.


No way and especially not true if you count the U.S. military stationed in SK. Wink
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JZer



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant ESL teachers. I am not counting business people and the US military.
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
Americans lead in numbers in Korea (maybe in the 6-7k range?). Followed by Canadians and Brits if I recall correctly.


I think there are more Canadians in South Korea than Americans. Someone correct me if I am wrong.


As of April 2008, there were 18,029 foreign-language teachers in Korea and English-language teachers accounted for 16,751, or 92.7 percent.

Forty percent of foreign-language teachers are from the United States, 29.4 percent from Canada and 9.3 percent from Britain. Others include those from South American (4.1 percent), Australia (3.9 percent) and New Zealand (3.8 percent).

Can't find any 2009 figures, but doubt it's changed much.

From:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/03/116_41059.html
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JZer



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for providing us with the real statistics. Now I know the truth.
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AjarnIam



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I think it's related to where the big boss went to school. My Big Boss studied in the UK so our course material tends to be more Brit based, however I know the students prefer the Canadian or American accents.
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