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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Der spiral78,

I rather enjoy paraphrasing. Here's an example I just did for a student I'm tutoring.

Today�s advanced communications companies will seek to converge their traditional prepaid and postpaid approaches, viewing them simply as different payment methods for a service. These companies will also look to bundle fixed, mobile and broadband services into new offerings. Moving toward a next-generation, convergent billing and revenue management platform can pose challenges for telecommunications service providers. Main product features are:

(Here�s my paraphrase)

Communication companies in the forefront of the modern market will endeavor to combine their established prepaid and postpaid methods, regarding them as only different ways to garner payments. Moreover, these same businesses will devise techniques to merge fixed, mobile and broadband accounts into innovative services. However, in the process of attaining these anticipated goals of confluent debiting and income control, some difficulties may need to be confronted.
The principal product factors are as follow:


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John
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plagarism is indirectly encouraged in Peru. Example, Teachers write their own text books, students are supposed to memorise key sections and spit them out word by word. Teachers deduct points if they write it incorrectly.

Ugh. Imagine the frustration when you tell students that it's bad!
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear naturegirl321,

Ah, the great Tom Lehrer put it best:

"I am never forget the day I first meet the great Lobachevsky.
In one word he told me secret of success in mathematics: Plagiarize!

Plagiarize,
Let no one else's work evade your eyes,
Remember why the good Lord made your eyes,
So don't shade your eyes,
But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize...
Only be sure always to call it please research."

http://curvebank.calstatela.edu/newmath/newmath.htm


Regards,
John Very Happy
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat: Hmmm, pretty good. I'd pass it, obviously.

As you're clearly aware, paraphrasing is both a learned and a developed skill. We have kind of given up trying to 'teach' students how to do it effectively, limiting our focus to introducing them to the concepts. Then, showing them how their paraphrases can be too close to the original through a quick study of the plagiarism software we use.

It's actually rather fun Very Happy But then I'm a bit of a geek about academic writing. Cool
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Hadit



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I see, an MA in these universities, USQ, UNE, or Deakin, will cost about 16 or 17 grand US, right? And these are the cheapest? Man, I was thinking/hoping they were a bit lower.

Does UNE and Deakin require a thesis track?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hadit wrote:
From what I see, an MA in these universities, USQ, UNE, or Deakin, will cost about 16 or 17 grand US, right? And these are the cheapest? Man, I was thinking/hoping they were a bit lower.

Does UNE and Deakin require a thesis track?


    -16 or 17 grand US (+ texts) for a masters degree as an international student is GOOD (it will only go up, and it very probably WILL go up each year). It costs far more at universities in the UK for international students.

    -Deakin, at least, does not require a thesis track, though it is an option.
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Hadit wrote:
From what I see, an MA in these universities, USQ, UNE, or Deakin, will cost about 16 or 17 grand US, right? And these are the cheapest? Man, I was thinking/hoping they were a bit lower.

Does UNE and Deakin require a thesis track?


    -16 or 17 grand US (+ texts) for a masters degree as an international student is GOOD (it will only go up, and it very probably WILL go up each year). It costs far more at universities in the UK for international students.

    -Deakin, at least, does not require a thesis track, though it is an option.


You can get MA TESOLs (or similar) from some American Unis for 12-14k. An MAAL from the University of Nottingham is only around 10k USD (�6,300) for international students.

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/fees/2009-10/pgt-fees2009-10.htm#education


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Hadit



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

runthegauntlet wrote:
You can get MA TESOLs (or similar) from American Unis for 12-14k.


Which ones did you have in mind?
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hadit wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
You can get MA TESOLs (or similar) from American Unis for 12-14k.


Which ones did you have in mind?


University of Missouri is even cheaper than that off the top of my head.

University of Indiana if you're a resident.

Google for others. It takes forever tracking down cost info. on these uni. websites.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear runthegauntlet,

Well, this might help narrow it down, a list of (supposedly) the top universities offering an MA in TESOL:

http://www.thelinguist.org/MA_TESOL.html

Anybody ever hear of this place (Be advised: it's religious.)

http://www.apu.edu/clas/globalstudies/tesol/fieldbased/tuition/

Regards,
John
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robertokun



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for that first link, John. I've been researching and have even sent off a few applications for the upcoming fall start for an MA TESOL/App Ling, so it's interesting to some of the schools that I was already considering on the list (and some that I wasn't or didn't know about.) There's another site with info as well that I found to be helpful (don't remember if I found out about it here or not, but another reminder anyway if it helps someone.)

http://www.tesol.org/s_tesol/seccss.asp?CID=1770&DID=9326
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear runthegauntlet,

Well, this might help narrow it down, a list of (supposedly) the top universities offering an MA in TESOL:

http://www.thelinguist.org/MA_TESOL.html

Anybody ever hear of this place (Be advised: it's religious.)

http://www.apu.edu/clas/globalstudies/tesol/fieldbased/tuition/

Regards,
John



Haha, right. Cheers for that. I spent about 10 minutes on google trying to find the places I wanted and just got irritated with it.
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