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svrart

Hi,

Yesterday, I was told that the college wants to cancel my contract. I live in Lanzhou, Gansu and want to continue living here. Vacation starts in a day, so it's almost impossible to find a job in Lanzhou city for the next month. Once the contract is canceled, my Z visa becomes invalid. What do I do? What visa type do I get, till I find another job?

Thanks

Mister Al · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 840 Location: In there

Z visa? Do you mean your Residency Permit? When does it actually expire? Are you sure the employer is going to try to cancel it? Keep your passport and they can't do that physically. Seems to me you won't have anything to worry about but try to get a Letter of Release from the college. Enjoy the cold weather and look for a new job. Your new employer will sort things out when you get a new job.

The Ever-changing Cleric · Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523

svrart · Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject:

Hi,

Ok. The Z visa does not get canceled, but the residence permit will be.

The Z visa expires in August. But if the residence permit is canceled in a few weeks, I think I have to get a new one. It's not possible to find a job locally soon because universities will close for the holidays tomorrow. My question is how do I get the residence permit? Can I get it without a new job? If not, can I change my visa status and get a residence permit?

Thanks

Mister Al · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 840 Location: In there

Not sure if you're trolling or not.

Anyway, have a look in your passport. You don't have a Z visa. That only lasts 30 days and was replaced with your RP. If your RP is going to be cancelled (Are you sure?) then all you can do if you can't find a job is apply for an L visa (or an F visa if you know what you're doing..I suspect not). You'll probably only get an L visa for 30 days but you can renew it once. You might have to show proof of funds as well. You can only get a new RP with a new job or as a full time student (X visa)

Jayray · Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 373 Location: Back East

Mister Al · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 840 Location: In there

svrart · Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:42 am Post subject:

Hi,

Certainly not trolling. Just don't know the ins and outs of the visa situation because this is the first time it is happening to me.

I am still trying to find out the facts. I have looked on the net and have found contradictory info.

Thanks,

jamesmollo · Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 276 Location: jilin china

O.K It works like this...you can't have a z-visa and a residence permit at the same time, the former gets changed into the latter.

If you are talking about your residence permit expiring in August, then just keep your passport and worry about that later. If you, indeed, have a z-visa, that has not been changed after 30 days apon arrival in China, well then that is a problem.

If you are confused about this process you can try the s.a.f.e.a website or middlekingdomlife website for further information.

China.Pete · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 547

James is correct. The Residence Permit being good through August gives you until then to find a new job. Don't give anyone your passport before then. Ask for a release letter from your current employer (nicely, if that might help). Worst case scenario is you can work the language schools semi-legally until something permanent comes along. If your current employer terminated you without cause, you could try and fight it (check with your local SAFEA). But the easiest route may be to forgo any restitution in exchange for a release letter and any niceness you can extract from them, just so that you can find something else as quickly as possible. My sympathies to anyone who's experienced this.

Jayray · Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 373 Location: Back East

Iceberg7811 · Joined: 27 Apr 2009 Posts: 20

I am in a similar situation,

My resident permit expires in July. Does that mean I can stay in china until July?. I have also broken the contract with my school.

Can I come back to china without problems?

Can I work part-time in another province?

I am very worried about this since my friend overstayed his visa by a few months and now he is being held in detention for 10 days.

Pls give only the facts save ur lectures for school.

Sugar & Spice · Joined: 11 Feb 2010 Posts: 73

It's been my experience that most schools won't cancel your Residence Permit if you leave early, but, as far as I know - if they ask for the passport = they will cancel it. I'm not sure, but, I think they can cancel the RP without your passport though.

Jayray · Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 373 Location: Back East

If the RP is canceled and the teacher cannot leave immediately (as in that day) the RP must be replaced by something. In my case, it was a three day tourist visa (one day for processing, one day for me to pack my stuff) and one day sitting in the airport.

I accompanied the FAO to the PSB just to see what the h3ll goes on in the process of early cancellation. When we got to the PSB, I was required to sit for a picture. I refused. Unfortunately, the #@!!*% recruiter provided a digital file of the photos that I submitted with my application. That was attached to the papers that stayed in the file at the PSB.

The fun part was when we went to the travel agency to buy the ticket. (The FAO is required to buy the ticket through the Ministry of Aviation or some such thing). The Waiban complained that my return ticket was too expensive through the government.

Then, when she got the price from the travel agency, she wanted me to chip in for the ticket.

I won't repeat what I told the waiban.

The agent spoke perfect English. I asked her for my itinerary (I'm an American).

"LAX" (Los Angeles).

---AND?

"Los Angeles. That's it."

--- Uh, well, my contract calls for return airfare. I've got 2,000 miles to go!

The travel agent was a sweetheart. She could figure out what was going on. She booked me through to my final destination. The waiban again asked me for money.

--- [expletive deleted]

She had to go back to the bank to get more cash. I couldn't figure out why she didn't just bring cash from the school, but for some reason, all of my compensation--- airfare, last salary came right out of her purse. Go figure.

But anyway, your RP will have to be replaced with something else, and the FAO has a responsibility to allow you to either find a new job or get you a tourist visa so that you don't run afoul of the law.

jamesmollo · Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 276 Location: jilin china

Not true! Jayray made the mistake of handing over his passport. NEVER DO THAT! The powers that be can do nothing if you don't. The PSB do not get involved in such matters unless you let them. That is why they are called the public security bureau.

What they can do is cancel your foreign expert's certificate, not a big deal for a new employer to deal with. They can do that online. And they are required to do so when you leave the 'work unit'

This just means you are now a resident without a purpose, i.e you are no longer a foreign expert but have residence status for the duration of the date in your passport.

You see, a z-visa is a general work category visa that is changed into a residence permit based on your employer's obtaining a foreign expert's certificate upon arrival into China within 30 days.

Just don't hand over your passport for any reason! otherwise, what happened to jayray will happen to you i.e they will/can replace it with a temporary L visa and you will have to leave in a limited ammount of time.