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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:12 am    Post subject: Tax question for Americans Reply with quote

Ok, I understand taht in some countries, like the MIddle East and Korea, you are exempt from paying local taxes. So in that case, I would assume that you have to pay US taxes, right?

I mean, you have to pay taxes to some country. And in order to file the 2555, you have to have your tax home in another country.

So, let's say you work in Saudi, extempt from Saudi taxes, so you can't file the 2555, correct? And you pay American taxes?

Anyone know about this?
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fladude



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The basic exemption doesn't change. If you aren't making over the limit then you are fine.

You will, by the way, pay taxes in every country on earth. Some countries do not have an income tax. But all countries have taxes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Americans must file practically no matter what. You don't have to pay taxes on foreign earned income under about $87,500 (amount changes every year), but you must still file!
http://www.irs.gov/faqs/content/0,,id=199953,00.html

Get the tax situation straight, too. That is, "local taxes" could mean city/resident taxes to some people, whereas you are actually trying to say income tax for the foreign country. Semantics, but it means a lot here!
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I meant income tax. IS there any way to get out of paying income tax in the US if you don't pay where you work, ex. Saudi, etc.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear fladude,

No taxes -local or USA - to be paid in Saudi, as long as you're not making over $87,500 a year (and not too many EFL teachers do, I'd imagine.)
You file US tax forms in Saudi (or you should,) but you don't pay.
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John
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear fladude,

No taxes -local or USA - to be paid in Saudi, as long as you're not making over $87,500 a year (and not too many EFL teachers do, I'd imagine.)
You file US tax forms in Saudi (or you should,) but you don't pay.
Regards,
John


HOw does that work? I was under the assumption, that to get the 2555, you had to have a tax home outside of the US, but if you don't pay taxes in Saudi, shouldn't you have to pay them to the US?

Or do you just still file the 2555? How do you justify Saudi being your "tax home"?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear naturegirl321,

Residence or physical presence:

1) A U.S. citizen who is a bona-fifed resident of a foreign country or countries for an uninterrupted period that includes a complete tax year, or

2) A U.S. resident alien who is a citizen or national of a country with which the United States has an income tax treaty in effect and who is a bona-fide resident of a foreign country or countries for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year, or

3) A U.S. citizen or a U.S. resident alien who is physically present in a foreign country or countries for at least 330 full days during any period of 12 consecutive months.

"Foreign Earned Income Exclusion
If you have your full time residence abroad for a full calendar year, or live there for 330 days out of any consecutive 12 month period, you can exclude up to $87,600 of earned income from U.S. Income Taxation for 2008 and lesser amounts in earlier years. If you are married, and both of you earn income and reside and work abroad, you can also exclude up to another $87,600 of your spouses income from taxation. These exclusions can only be claimed on a filed tax return and is not automatic if you fail to file your Form 1040 for the year it applies as well as the appropriate forms claiming this exclusion. This is a fantastic advantage for people who live and work outside of the U.S. Earned income is that paid you for your work or services and does not apply to rental income, dividend or interest income, or other types of income that is not paid for your own personal efforts.
You can also claim an additional exclusion from your U.S. taxes in excess of the $87,600, if the rent, utilities, etc. you pay on your residence abroad and other living expenses exceed a standard amount (which is currently approx $13,000 per year) established by the IRS. This exclusion only comes into play when your earnings are in excess of the $87,600 foreign income exclusion and is limited by new laws enacted in 2006 to a maximum of approximately $13,000. Note that over 100 cities in the world have higher allowable housing deductions. See the instructions to Form 2555 to see that list of cities with the higher allowable cost of housing."

http://www.taxmeless.com/page4.html

I filed every one of my nineteen years in Saudi; I never paid ANY taxes, to the US or to Saudi.

Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote