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cheerfuldougg



Joined: 23 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:25 am    Post subject: too old? Reply with quote

I am a 50 y/o married male in US. Have a BA. Kids (finally) out of the house. Wife and I would like to see some of the world, but need some form of (partial) support to do so. Need to be certified.
Am I too old to even be thinking about this?
Any advice? Esp. from other "mature" ESL'ers?
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tomstone



Joined: 09 Dec 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope your not to old! I'm 56, just got a contract renewal, and hope to keep renewing. I started teaching ESL when I was 55.
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cheerfuldougg



Joined: 23 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:37 am    Post subject: too old Reply with quote

You make me feel better about this idea. I would love to hear more about your experience.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm older than you and started at 40. Depends on where you want to be, but generally your vanilla BA degree puts you on the bottom rung of most teaching positions:

ALT
conversation school
business English if you're lucky to have the right experience

How long did you envision doing this, and what will your wife do while you are working?

What does "need to be certified" mean?
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tomstone



Joined: 09 Dec 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheerfuldougg, go to "China (Job-Related Posts)" and look at "I am 63 years old am I to old to teach in China/get Z-Visa?". Lots of many different stories. It's a new thread, very easy to find.
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cheerfuldougg



Joined: 23 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: too old Reply with quote

Thanks Glenski and tomstone,

By "certified" I meant I had not yet got my TEFL certification.

I would like to do this at least until I can retire (60-62 yo), but knows what the future holds?

Not sure what my wife is going to be doing - still some details to work out.

thanks again!
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got three colleagues older than you. Two started EFL last year.

Get a good cert, and off you go. Which countries interest you?


Best,
Justin
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cheerfuldougg



Joined: 23 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: too old Reply with quote

Thanks Justin,

What do you mean by a "good certification"? I have been studying the websites to determine what is the best route for certification. Oxford Seminars offers a 60 hr cert. at a University near me. Any suggestions?

I think I would like to stay on "this side of the pond" - Latin America or South America - but am open.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In many countries, entry level jobs don't require any type of certification. If you feel you need it, of course, by all means get it.

Realize, too, that in many/most cases you may run into jobs where your boss is half your age. Think about it. Also, that boss may not really know a lot about the biz.
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barabbas



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd agree your age should be no problem - a place that doesn't want to hire you because of it is probably not worth working at anyway.

The best intro. cert. is usually considered to be the CELTA. If you're in the States the following locations offer it:

http://cambridgeesol-centres.org/centres/teaching/search.do;jsessionid=9DACFCDC7B57EDCFC3BFB0C06EBA870B.node02?source=teacheraward&country=US&qualification=10&Input=Search
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csfek



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you try the Peace Corps? I think that quite a few of their volunteers end up teaching English. I also think you can do a master's degree in TESOL through them, although I don't know any specifics about that.
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tomstone



Joined: 09 Dec 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In many countries, entry level jobs don't require any type of certification.


Yes, when I first decided to cross the pond, I was under the impression that you HAD to have some sort of certification. It's more of a recommendation; the best way to learn how to teach is to teach. Throw yourself in the water.

Back to the age thing, I always ask any prospective employers if they're going to hold my experience and wisdom against me. They don't.
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Threnody



Joined: 13 Nov 2009
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Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

csfek wrote:
Why don't you try the Peace Corps? I think that quite a few of their volunteers end up teaching English. I also think you can do a master's degree in TESOL through them, although I don't know any specifics about that.


American University in Washington, DC has a program like this:
http://www.american.edu/cas/tesol/MA-TESL.cfm

I think there may be a few others.
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Chris_Crossley



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Age is no barrier to starting TEFL in China Reply with quote

I have an Australian colleague who, like me, has been here in China for a number of years and is going to be celebrating his 60th birthday next month. A number of fellow teachers in our education training centre are past their 50th year already, too. So, it�s never too late to start teaching English, especially in the Middle Kingdom!
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coledavis



Joined: 21 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your age is no problem (I was another starter at 50). I do have a problem however with this talk of not getting a decent training course under your belt. Unless you already have teaching experience - and even then, TEFL is a rather specialist type of training - you're likely to be at sea when you start. I recommend the CELTA if you want to approach teaching with any seriousness. Also, holding the CELTA is very very helpful in applying for that first job.
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