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Somewhere Out There · Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 11 Location: China

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND OUT WHICH PROVINCES IN CHINA DON'T REQUIRE A DEGREE TO TEACH?
Has anyone gotten their work visa in the last 6 months to a year and don't have a degree but only college or no post-secondary at all?

The Ever-changing Cleric · Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523

i dont know if there's any province that legally hires teachers without a degree. but i do know this: you can find teachers in every province who dont have degrees. it all comes down to the school's needs and if they can get the necessary documents for your Z visa from the local officials (guanxi/connections).

the key is to seek out the schools that'll do this. one place where i worked in the recent past hired a couple of teachers w/o degrees. i met one of them, and it turned out that she was the wife of another teacher who did have a degree (the husband had a Z visa, the wife didn't but she still worked at the school and got the same salary as everyone else).

put your resume together (and anything else needed) and send it off to a bunch of schools. see what kind of replies you get.

rogerwallace · Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 66 Location: California

Having taught/lived in China for several years, I have learned several things: if one of the married couple gets a z visa , so does the spouse, universities are more strict about z visa and degree, that things are changing to unify all "foreign expert status and the z visa that comes with it! I am going back soon and have just compleated a NEW Evaluation process for the ministry of education, which will serve for many purposes and be kept on file for further reference.
Of course there will still be those schools who do not comply and are in it for the $$$. I for one do not want to go through some ugly deportation by tring to fake it all.
Just a word of advice for ESLers...

The Ever-changing Cleric · Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523

kukiv · Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 328

Roger Wallace wrote;

sharpe88 · Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Posts: 226

That's not ugly enough for you ? I don't personally know anyone kicked out but I've had officials come by school checking passports.

But i do have a friend who was kicked out of HK, I have no doubt it happens here too any time officials feel like cracking down.

kukiv · Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 328

The Ever-changing Cleric · Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523

unless you're a major league *&%#&% there's little chance of getting kicked out of china by anyone. in six years here i've never heard or seen any evidence of anyone being treated as such, and i've met some real esl &%$#@# here in that time.

if its ugly witch hunts and quick deportations you're after, then go to korea. they're more commonplace there.

kukiv · Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 328

Somewhere in Dave's is a report from just before the Olympics - of a police visa raid, during a Saturday evening, on a bar full of FT and other loa wai. If I remember correctly - most of them didn't even have their passports - the result being the terrible punishment of having their names written into a book - and end of story!!!!!!!!
Saying that there are also stories of folk being stopped on the street - and if they are not able to produce their papers - having a slightly more difficult experience - but certainly nothing very ugly.

Personally I don't think we can look on lax enforcement of laws as something that makes life easier - usually it just adds to the complications of living in China!!!!!