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[rogerwallace]

Has anyone taken the new foreign expert evaluation and question test? It is differentas is the English wording. This places on record a teachers qualifications,marital status,psych status,writing and information on record with the ministry of education. Also, regestered schools/universities will be able to "preview" qualified applicants in the future, thereby comparing stated/applied qualifications to those "on record. This is a part of the new 12 year educational plan in China.

[tomstone]

Never heard of it. "New" meaning different than that other joke of a test we were "required" to take a couple of months ago? They asked for quite a lot of personal info.

[thessy]

[tomstone]

My favorite part of the eval was when I got the results for my essay. High marks were for "grammer and spelling". It would have been too perfect if they would have misspelled "spelling", but spelling "grammar" wrong is still classic.

[The Ever-changing Cleric]

i typed out each of those questions in MS Word as i answered them. i wanted to save a copy so i could a. show it to my friends for a good laugh; and b. maybe use it in a future lesson on chinglish and how to avoid it.

here are two of my favourite questions from that exam:

What do u do when u get angry?

I scratch my head
I prefer to stay alone
I look for someone to fight with
I become talkative in order to get rid of the upset feeling
I break things

Do you agree that the up and down is not the real life but trivial daily life is real?

No I would like to have an up and down life
I kind of agree
It may not match with everyone�s life
Yes I agree
No I am kind of disagree

[rogerwallace]

Yes, I know how bad their English can be and the lack of "none of the above" multi choise, but the point is that I never saw this record of personal and otherwise information about ones self before. If this is a permanent log of ones self, in the future comparison of ones application to this so called evaluation may be the bar that keeps some out!

[TexasHighway]

My favorite questions were these:

Psychological test:
How do you feel on an early autumn morning?
I would enjoy the cool weather in fall.
A lot of leaves may have fallen.
I won't have any special feelings.
It might be a little bit cool outside.
It might be draining outside.

Basic knowledge:
Which room of the house is most polluted?
Bedroom
Living room
Kitchen
Toilet

[tomstone]

Getting back to the original post, rogerwallace, is this the same evaluation that you're talking about? If memory serves, the deadline for taking this was November 20th, '09.

[rogerwallace]

I hadn't seen this before. like I said and coupled w/the newly anounced 12 year plan(which I haven't read),I am wondering about the direction in which the government is headed. During my teaching year in China at several Universities, I met numerous foreigners who really didn't qualify and still more who the students couldn't understand(since when do Nigerians qualify as native english speakers?) The foreign teachers from other countries(mostly Russian teaching Russian) were highly qualified and couldn't understand(other than for pure corruption sake), how these non qualified foreigners were teaching english!
I am just saying-look past the poor english and dumb questions to what is really happening...

[tomstone]

When the first evaluation started circulating, many people (including myself) were wondering about whether or not this was some sort of excuse for the government to weed out undesirables; however, a moment's thought will tell you that the government doesn't need any excuses to boot any foreigners, just tell them to leave; no explanations necessary.

[kukiv]

Looks like another official smokescreen to make money - somebody dreams up an FT evaluation dept. - gets funding, devises the test that they use as proof of a dept. actually functioning - and then everybody gradually pockets a share of the budget that was meant to fund the long-term project.
Happens all the time in so many official projects - just another way of siphoning the peoples money into the pockets of the privileged few.

By the way having that dept. is also a valuable tool for extracting a red envelope from an employer or two. Nothing like a few failed tests and threats to schools that they'll have to replace their sub-standard FT's - to get them banquet invitations a rollin!!!!

[SnoopBot]

[JJ711]

From my own experience, the photo request is the most critical screening tool used by potential employers. The correct face appears to be what the overwhelming majority of schools in Asia are looking for. Why would employers bother with a test if it excludes someone they might want to hire? What is the pass/fail level? Anyway, who could possibly fail such a simplistic test?

[tomstone]

Who could fail? A better question would be who passed? Some of the questions had no correct answer, others were incomprehensible; most teachers I talked to had no idea what they were asking. I passed the essay exam, so technically I had a grade of 60% overall which is passing, but barely.

[JJ711]