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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: is spanish important |
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ls650 wrote: |
Prof.Gringo wrote: |
I arrived with no Spanish at all. After six months I was speaking enough Spanish to get by on my own. |
Likewise.
Having some basic Spanish ability before you arrive will help things go a lot easier, but it is not vital. |
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SaratheSlytherin
Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 137 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:25 am Post subject: |
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I studied abroad in Mexico and I can tell you that the more Spanish you know, the more doors will open for you.
At least learn some basic Spanish!
It's better than none, like the other poster said.
I realize that the Tefl approach uses a lot of immersion but sometimes when you teach, a quick translation is the best way to explain something.
Furthermore, you will be living there, and interacting with people who might not know English.
It means a lot to people when you attempt to speak their language...
Buena suerte... |
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TheLongWayHome

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1016 Location: San Luis Piojosi
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:26 am Post subject: |
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SaratheSlytherin wrote: |
I realize that the Tefl approach uses a lot of immersion but sometimes when you teach, a quick translation is the best way to explain something. |
It is but I wouldn't recommend it. It's like an open door for the students to ask you for translations every 5 minutes instead of trying to use the English they have to express it another way. If you give them the translation they won't retain it either. It goes straight into the short term memory, serves its purpose and is forgotten. No learning takes place. There are productive ways to use translation in class but this isn't one of them. |
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SaratheSlytherin
Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 137 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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No, no, no... you don't understand... I didn't mean use it as a crutch or anything.
What I meant is that there are various ways of explaining something, and sometimes when the teacher shares the same L1 as the students, there are times when it's appropriate to take advantage of that... I'm not saying use it as a substitute for other teaching techniques. i'm just saying that sometimes... it makes sense.
Just clarifying... thanks! |
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aaaronr
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 82
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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If you went to university in the U.S., then you probably had to learn a second language. In the U.S. that second language should be Spanish because so many Spanish speakers live in the U.S.
It made teaching Mexico easier for me to know Spanish. Knowing cognates helps a lot when you are teaching. Not knowing Spanish that well keeps you from translating everything.
If you live in Mexico, you should definitely learn Spanish. Why not? It will help you on a day to day basis, and most people will appreciate the effort even if you're not fluent.
Learn it. Live it. |
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SaratheSlytherin
Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 137 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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I went to university in Mexico (as well as the US)... so I speak perfect, or nearly perfect Spanish. I'm not bragging, it just goes with the territory.
In the classroom, I avoid translating everything, but outside the classroom, in the real world, I am thankful to know Spanish. In Mexico, English is the foreign language and Spanish is part of the culture and heritage.
I have told my students that I have a medical condition that causes me to forget my Spanish periodically... jejeje. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Can one take a morning Spanish class and work in the afternoon? How doable is that?
I have done this in Taiwan. Can it be done in Mexico City? |
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wildchild

Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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should seem purdy doable to me...
and why not...? |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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What kind of job can one get in the afternoon in Mexico? What are typical hours for afternoon jobs? |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: furthermore |
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If you are teaching through a recruiter at corporate training centers or at a language school, the usual afternoon hours are 4-9 p.m. although it is feasible to find that infrequent class earlier in the afternoon. |
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SaratheSlytherin
Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 137 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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"If you went to university in the U.S., then you probably had to learn a second language. In the U.S. that second language should be Spanish because so many Spanish speakers live in the U.S.
It made teaching Mexico easier for me to know Spanish. Knowing cognates helps a lot when you are teaching. Not knowing Spanish that well keeps you from translating everything.
If you live in Mexico, you should definitely learn Spanish. Why not? It will help you on a day to day basis, and most people will appreciate the effort even if you're not fluent."
Learn it. Live it.
You are so right!!
If you're teaching in Mexico, that means living in Mexico. Making an effort to speak the language shows respect for the culture.
In my case it was just a matter of my love for the Latin culture and the Spanish language. I love teaching but I also loved so many things about Mexico... my heart is there (one reason I'm considering going back there to teach) and I'm so grateful I learned Spanish. I started learning on my own in kindergarten, but it's never too late to learn. |
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SaratheSlytherin
Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 137 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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JZer wrote: |
Can one take a morning Spanish class and work in the afternoon? How doable is that?
I have done this in Taiwan. Can it be done in Mexico City? |
Sure!!
Mexico City is one of the biggest cities in the world, if not the biggest. |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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SaratheSlytherin wrote: |
JZer wrote: |
Can one take a morning Spanish class and work in the afternoon? How doable is that?
I have done this in Taiwan. Can it be done in Mexico City? |
Sure!!
Mexico City is one of the biggest cities in the world, if not the biggest. |
It's possible if your Spanish class, work and place to live are all close enough to each other to make it practical. And your jobs pays you enough to actually do it all and still have enough left over for some tacos al-pastor  |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Yes,
I understand that I might need to save the tuition for Spanish class before I come to Mexico. How much for a semester of Spanish classes in Mexico City? |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:07 am Post subject: |
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JZer wrote: |
Yes,
I understand that I might need to save the tuition for Spanish class before I come to Mexico. How much for a semester of Spanish classes in Mexico City? |
UNAM charges about $5,000 pesos, but you get a whopping $500 peso discount if you have a FM-3/2. |
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