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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: is spanish important Reply with quote

ls650 wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:
I arrived with no Spanish at all. After six months I was speaking enough Spanish to get by on my own.

Likewise.
Having some basic Spanish ability before you arrive will help things go a lot easier, but it is not vital.


Gracias! Laughing
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SaratheSlytherin



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I studied abroad in Mexico and I can tell you that the more Spanish you know, the more doors will open for you.

At least learn some basic Spanish!

It's better than none, like the other poster said.

I realize that the Tefl approach uses a lot of immersion but sometimes when you teach, a quick translation is the best way to explain something.

Furthermore, you will be living there, and interacting with people who might not know English.

It means a lot to people when you attempt to speak their language...

Buena suerte...
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaratheSlytherin wrote:


I realize that the Tefl approach uses a lot of immersion but sometimes when you teach, a quick translation is the best way to explain something.

It is but I wouldn't recommend it. It's like an open door for the students to ask you for translations every 5 minutes instead of trying to use the English they have to express it another way. If you give them the translation they won't retain it either. It goes straight into the short term memory, serves its purpose and is forgotten. No learning takes place. There are productive ways to use translation in class but this isn't one of them.
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SaratheSlytherin



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no, no... you don't understand... I didn't mean use it as a crutch or anything.

What I meant is that there are various ways of explaining something, and sometimes when the teacher shares the same L1 as the students, there are times when it's appropriate to take advantage of that... I'm not saying use it as a substitute for other teaching techniques. i'm just saying that sometimes... it makes sense.

Just clarifying... thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you went to university in the U.S., then you probably had to learn a second language. In the U.S. that second language should be Spanish because so many Spanish speakers live in the U.S.

It made teaching Mexico easier for me to know Spanish. Knowing cognates helps a lot when you are teaching. Not knowing Spanish that well keeps you from translating everything.

If you live in Mexico, you should definitely learn Spanish. Why not? It will help you on a day to day basis, and most people will appreciate the effort even if you're not fluent.

Learn it. Live it.
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SaratheSlytherin



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to university in Mexico (as well as the US)... so I speak perfect, or nearly perfect Spanish. I'm not bragging, it just goes with the territory.

In the classroom, I avoid translating everything, but outside the classroom, in the real world, I am thankful to know Spanish. In Mexico, English is the foreign language and Spanish is part of the culture and heritage.

I have told my students that I have a medical condition that causes me to forget my Spanish periodically... jejeje.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can one take a morning Spanish class and work in the afternoon? How doable is that?

I have done this in Taiwan. Can it be done in Mexico City?
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

should seem purdy doable to me...

and why not...?
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JZer



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of job can one get in the afternoon in Mexico? What are typical hours for afternoon jobs?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: furthermore Reply with quote

If you are teaching through a recruiter at corporate training centers or at a language school, the usual afternoon hours are 4-9 p.m. although it is feasible to find that infrequent class earlier in the afternoon.
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SaratheSlytherin



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If you went to university in the U.S., then you probably had to learn a second language. In the U.S. that second language should be Spanish because so many Spanish speakers live in the U.S.

It made teaching Mexico easier for me to know Spanish. Knowing cognates helps a lot when you are teaching. Not knowing Spanish that well keeps you from translating everything.

If you live in Mexico, you should definitely learn Spanish. Why not? It will help you on a day to day basis, and most people will appreciate the effort even if you're not fluent."

Learn it. Live it.

You are so right!!

If you're teaching in Mexico, that means living in Mexico. Making an effort to speak the language shows respect for the culture.

In my case it was just a matter of my love for the Latin culture and the Spanish language. I love teaching but I also loved so many things about Mexico... my heart is there (one reason I'm considering going back there to teach) and I'm so grateful I learned Spanish. I started learning on my own in kindergarten, but it's never too late to learn.
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SaratheSlytherin



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
Can one take a morning Spanish class and work in the afternoon? How doable is that?

I have done this in Taiwan. Can it be done in Mexico City?


Sure!!

Mexico City is one of the biggest cities in the world, if not the biggest.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaratheSlytherin wrote:
JZer wrote:
Can one take a morning Spanish class and work in the afternoon? How doable is that?

I have done this in Taiwan. Can it be done in Mexico City?


Sure!!

Mexico City is one of the biggest cities in the world, if not the biggest.


It's possible if your Spanish class, work and place to live are all close enough to each other to make it practical. And your jobs pays you enough to actually do it all and still have enough left over for some tacos al-pastor Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes,

I understand that I might need to save the tuition for Spanish class before I come to Mexico. How much for a semester of Spanish classes in Mexico City?
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
Yes,

I understand that I might need to save the tuition for Spanish class before I come to Mexico. How much for a semester of Spanish classes in Mexico City?


UNAM charges about $5,000 pesos, but you get a whopping $500 peso discount if you have a FM-3/2.
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