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Rommel · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 121

I was recently contacted by Al Hoty Company about teaching for Aramco.
Does anyone have any knowledge of the current teaching package for Aramco?
cheers

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

The package is from the contractor - in this case Al Hoty. They have a reputation as one of the better of many contractors supplying indentured labour to the Oil Company, but you are still going to be working for a contractor and treated as a second-class non-citizen, and non-Aramcon.

The golden days of direct hire and easy living are gone.

15yearsinQ8 · Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 462 Location: kuwait

rommel, you may not remember but we worked together once - trust me on this one, you're not aramco material (i'll bet some of your wife's thai cooking on it) i was on aramco compound in 91 and saw the school - trust me on this one

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Al-Hoty provide teachers for the Aramco Training Centre which trains Saudi school-leavers. It does not provide teachers for Aramco Schools which are located on the main Aramco Compound. Different ball-game.

Rommel · Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 121

Scott, thanks for your candid comments. 150yearsinKuwait, anyone that has spent as much time in Kuwait as you have, I'd imagine you've worked with everyone, at one time or another. However, that doesn't mean you know me. Keep your personal comments and opinions to yourself. And, no, I won't "trust you" on this or any other topic.

Never Ceased To Be Amazed · Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:52 pm Post subject:

svatopluk · Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 81

As a contractor, the money and benefits are pretty good, but the Aramcons will lord it over you and unless you're in Dhahran your accommodation will suck.

The students are on the whole appalling - lazy, rude, aggressive and with their wasta (connections) your boss will favour them every time over you.

I survived 2 years there and remember the day I left and went back to London as one of the greatest days of my life.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

The Golden Years are over. Aramco will not hire you direct as they used to do but will phone up Al Hothy or one of those other "contractors" and say,"Send us a dozen teachers tomorrow."

The contractor makes more out of the deal than the teacher. It reminds me of the dirty business with cleaners and school dinner ladies in the UK in the Thatcher and Post-thatcher period.

Vile.

All I can say is,"Roll on demob !"

Arabian Hawk · Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 79 Location: Mystical Kingdom

ARAMCO treats EFL instructors hired through contractors now with the same respect its gives to South Asian floor cleaners....NONE! You are nothing more to them than a warm body in the classroom and sometimes, if you make it through a one year contract, an entertaining clown! Laughing

kazazt · Joined: 15 Feb 2010 Posts: 164

hashim99uk · Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 47 Location: UK

7168Riyadh · Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 149

wasn't there another thread on which Cuffs, myself, and some others posted?
i can't seem to find it now.

omar08 · Joined: 18 Mar 2010 Posts: 12 Location: UK

Why work for them if they treat you as a second-class citizen?

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

...................................if the alternative is the dole in Bradford.........................

gibon · Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Posts: 40 Location: Warsaw