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Is Interac as bad as its reputation?
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe those figures are from adds for in country recruitment for specific jobs.

People applying from abroad for full time positions should be totalling 250,000/month (A bit more for a few who meet certain criteria). That's what we get.
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interac's full-timers generally get 230,000 plus a 20,000 yen attendance bonus. If you're one minute late for work, the attendance bonus is gone. Not all contracts are like that, and mine was for 260,000 and shakai hoken. If you're a domestic hire it's around 250,000, give or take.

With Interac, I think it all depends on the branch and how much you have to interact with the branch staff. I worked for the Osaka branch and the staff there were awful. The MC (foreign branch manager) is a particularly nasty woman. She's not too bright in that she e-mailed my friend telling him that he would be blacklisted from getting a job in Osaka and Interac was the biggest ALT company and were getting bigger and he would be blacklisted from them too, so he would be in a lot of trouble. This was because he elected not to accept Interac's terms of employment (he backed out after seeing the contract). I and a lot of my friends have had pretty awful experiences with Interac.

However, it appears that others haven't had bad experiences there. I originally worked for Nova and I got hired when I was in uni (to start after graduation). I talked with one of my professors and she told me that I could stay and always wonder about what things would be like if I had gone, or go and, if things didn't work out, I could always quit and come back home and know what happened. I went and, despite what others said, had a good time (up until not getting paid). Basically, what I'm saying is that it's only a job - not a life. If it doesn't work out, you can quit and move back home or find a new job (which is exactly what I did with Interac after enough of their "professionalism").
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inflames wrote:

With Interac, I think it all depends on the branch and how much you have to interact with the branch staff. I worked for the Osaka branch and the staff there were awful.


Having nice branch staff is a plus. I'm in the Tokyo brach. Ours are fine. I don't contact the MC much. I address everything to the Japanese staff and the Japanese boss lady, who are extremely helpful.

But your relationship with the staff at your school is just as important. If your school doesn't like you then even the nicest Interac staff are going to give you hell. And if your school is singing your praise, you'll probably find that even the deadliest Interac viper will swallow it's venom. Only problem is, in the case of any decent ALT (because not all of them are angels), whether you have a good relationship with your schools is going to depend on the school's experience with past ALTs, how good the JTEs are and their attitudes towards having a native English speaking ALT in their classroom.

But again, this situation exsists in pretty much all dispatch jobs in all dispatch companies.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Seklarwia

I'm not entirely 100% that there are no Leopalaces where I'm going... I'm not too shabby (she says) at Japanese and attempted searching on their site for apartments in my area. I'll be going out in the sticks in Niigata prefecture. Under Niigata many cities were listed but not mine Sad Although thinking about it, that could just be that there were no vacancies when I searched.

I know Leopalace is terribly small and many people say I will be lucking out if I don't get one - but I'd quite like to have somewhere semi-furnished when considering the current exchange rate with the pound!
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You not finding anything could mean anything. It could mean no vacancies, no Leopalace or perhaps that if you are really going to a tiny city/town that it comes under a larger area or nearby city name or that you have to actually contact them for info on these areas.

You don't really get a choice initially. Interac doesn't make money by subletting or sticking you in company apartments, so they don't really care where you live. They will simply want to get you a place convieniently located for getting to at least your main school (if you have more than one) that is foreigner friendly and easy to find/organise. Private rentals involve shopping around at all the local estate agents in your area and lots of negotiation... they don't have the patience, time frame or man power to do that when they are trying to accommodation for 1000+ new recuits.

Leopalace is convenient and it often has far lower start up costs. If you really are in the sticks (often new recruits' perception of what is sticks out here are not exactly correct), and you are careful in your first couple of months, you could find yourself needing considerably less than 500,000 to cover start up and to live off of until your first paycheque.

When you are here, feel free to shop around for a new place. If you find a place that you like, you can try haggling with the landlord via the agent to either drop or lower certain moving in cost such as key money.

If you start off in a regular rental, you could see yourself forking out 300,000+ simply to get the keys and cover a month or 2 of rent for an apartment that will be an empty shell with a front door. You will need to buy everything from appliances (including a stove) to light fixtures.

Leopalace is small, but it does have advantage of coming in a state that is livable from moment you get the keys (complete with mini fridge, stove, TV, heating/AC unit, washing machine, microwave etc) and you will have internet avaliable at no extra cost 48hrs after moving in.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys,
Since this post has taken a detour regarding housing, now might be the opportune time for me to ask this question. Are apartments really the only option? Is it possible to rent a room from a local family? For example, the area of the US I live in is notoriously expensive - you need to pull down at least $50 K or more to even qualify for a one bedroom apartment (and I am quite shy of that mark unfortunately). Therefore it's really common for people like me to rent rooms in houses. Now the difference is, American homes tend to be large and therefore people tend to have space they don't need. As Japanese homes are small, I can see where maybe this isn't a practice simply based on the fact they don't have space to rent out. But I figured it was worth a shot to ask if this is an avenue anyone has pursued and had luck with in Japan.

Thanks.
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every place I've worked for in Japan has made mistakes. The difference between every other place and Interac was that, when it was their mistake, they didn't blame me for it. Interac's "professionalism" was demonstrated quite well.

With Interac, the MC contacted me. In her first e-mail (since hiring me), she started saying I was unprofessional and a bad teacher. Of course, all I did was show up for BoE training (we were given an afternoon off and had to show up for training with the BoE) at the time the head trainer in the office wrote in his e-mail I should, which I then forwarded to the MC and the head trainer when it turned out they were wrong. She also demanded that, instead of going to school tomorrow, I come in for a meeting with the branch manager. I agreed to do so. Later on, I thought about things - how Interac had already messed up several times (various other things, but they weren't big). Instead of a meeting, I handed them my resignation letter saying that I was quitting effective immediately (it was within my 14 day no-notice period), that if my pay wasn't deposited, I didn't have a paystub or letter of release by the appropriate payday I would go to the labor standards office (I also printed out a map and address to show I wasn't messing around). I got my money and forms and I haven't heard a peep from them again.

I've worked for several other dispatch companies and have yet to experience anything like Interac's "professionalism."
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inflames: What other dispatch companies have you worked for?
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssjup81 wrote:
Inflames: What other dispatch companies have you worked for?


Among ones that people would know, I've worked for ZIAC, ECC (their outsourcing divisions) and DIC (there are two others I'm not mentioning, but these two are probably the most famous). Despite what people have said about ZIAC (that they're really an awful employer), I've never had problems with them (I only worked there one day a week). They've all made some mistakes but, as I said before, how they handle mistakes is important. For example, I work for a senmon gakko. We had some make-up classes in July, but I wasn't paid for them in August. I spoke to the staff and the looked into it, apologized, and said they would be included in my next paycheck (they were). I work with a Japanese teacher who also works at ECC (their eikaiwa) and she has said her pay has been incorrect numerous times. I once went out to a class site 90 minutes from my house to discover the class had been canceled but my company hadn't informed me! They apologized and paid me for transport for the day (in addition to all of the regular salary for the class).

IME most people have problems because they're desperate for a job and they don't ask relevant questions. As an example, with Interac, my contract (as do most others) have 75% pay for December. Once I saw this (the conditions were briefly mentioned before but when I got the contract was the first time I had a detailed explanation) I immediately asked what the working days in December were. If someone didn't (as I'd imagine some people wouldn't ask), they could be quite disappointed.

My experiences with ZIAC, Nova, and Interac are why I tell people that, if it's your only option to come to Japan, you should still come. Some people have good experiences and some have bad experiences with every company. If it doesn't work out, just quit. Otherwise you'll probably be wondering about what would have happened if you had taken their job.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I tell people that, if it's your only option to come to Japan, you should still come...Otherwise you'll probably be wondering about what would have happened if you had taken their job.


Completely agree, but always with the added and stressed caveat of 'but only if you are absolutely sure you can afford it' (it=the set-up costs, delayed pay, reduced holiday-period pay etc)...but you sort of covered this with the 75% Dec pay deal example. Smile

What I think would help a lot would be if the dispatchers themselves spelt everything out during interviews in brutally bold, up-front, "honest" and really-need-to-know detail: 'Your first month's pay will only arrive at the end of the second month; and this same process will start all over again after the summer, when you'll probably have had very few workdays owing as pay e.g. September's pay will only come at the end of October; oh, and Christmas/New Year is reduced to whatever percentage too. In short, all your pay is pro-rated and calculated by the day rather than being a set, guaranteed monthly income like eikiwa, so the pay can get comparatively low, and there is a limit to how much and how often we will be prepared to lend you any money to make up any shortfall. Now, are you absolutely sure that you will be able to and now still want to work for us? Maybe you still need to discuss how much you might like to borrow? Or should we simply say goodbye to each other now and leave the contract unsigned?'.

But if they said all that of course, it would put most people right off! And perhaps with good reason (things could sure be better, ideally-speaking).

As it is however the really "keen" wannabe employee (AET) is usually expected to ultimately not ask any hard questions, but just "play things by ear" and hope against hope that they'll be able to manage fine no matter what. I mean, if you question and therefore appear to quibble too much you can be told to get lost (but sometimes, with some prospective AETs, that would also be with good reason).

Anyway, just a shame that conditions aren't always good enough that AETs and dispatchers, if not AETs and JTEs etc, can all see eye-to-eye due to being reasonably satisfied and content financially at least!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gallerygirl wrote:
Hey guys,
Since this post has taken a detour regarding housing, now might be the opportune time for me to ask this question. Are apartments really the only option? Is it possible to rent a room from a local family?

Thanks.


There are homestays, but usually these are shorter term options, and mostly aimed at students. You are right in thinking that Japanese families don't have a lot of spare space, so if you do a homestay you tend to spend quite a lot of time physically with the family, and getting home late is usually frowned on because it's impossible not to disturb the other people in the house.

You could look for homestays in your area, but rents for small (and I mean small, but that's the norm here) apartments aren't as high as they seem to be where you are from, and would give you a lot more freedom. Not many homestay families would speak much English either, so it's probably something that's better pursued once you have reached at least a conversational level of Japanese (if you're already there, then great).

There is also the guest house ("gaijin house") option if you are near a larger city, but these can be very hit and miss (speaking from personal experience here).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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have a question for you Gwynnie86, as you are about to ship out with them - what are you doing for housing? Did they offer you any assistance, or are you left on your own to look for something? And are you getting something furnished or do you have to buy everything?


Sorry - didn't see this until now!!
They sent me an email with 3 housing options. They were all LeoPalace.... I looked at the links and chose one. They told me the total start up costs and asked me to confirm.
LeoPalaces come furnished and internet ready. Other places don't, but they might be bigger!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't forget, its human nature for only the people who are not happy to wine / whinge.
In other words, if say 10 people work at Interac and 7 are reasonably happy (??) they weill go home and get on with their life, while the few that are not happy will talk about it etc. Nothing really wrong with it, it is probably human nature. Interac is the biggest ALT dispatcher so there are more chances (just by pure numbers).
Their basic policy is pretty clear on their website and it does appear some branches are better than others (??)
If it was me, I would come, learn as much as you can and if you don't like it where you are going somewhere else the next year. Once you have some experience (and possibly contacts?) you can go to a better place.

anyway, my 2c worh
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