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JZer
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zipper
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nateliu99
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Does anyone know if it is possible to earn a principal ship degree in Taiwan or China at a University that it will count in in America?
I've looked a little online and can't find a definite answer about it, or even a list of universities in Taiwan and China that are American |
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JZer
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| Your best bet would be to get a job at a real international school and then go back to the US in the summer to become a principal. There are programs to study to become a principle during the summer break which some teachers in America take part in. You should be able to find summer time only programs online. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| Does anyone know if it is possible to earn a principal ship degree in Taiwan or China at a University that it will count in in America? |
You want to become a principle but you don't even know what degree you need to become a principle. A little research would help you a lot.
P.S. There is nothing called a principal's degree in the United States. |
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Disheartening experience, I emailed one of the ads for korea, and said, "I am an American born chinese, does this hurt my chances? Please let me know if i should not bother applying"
I got a response back: "Unfortunately it does hurt your chances..sorry"
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There are plenty of Korean/Americans, who can't speak a lick of Korean teaching at public schools in Korea. Why don't you apply with EPIK, GEPIK or SMOE? I am certain that you will get a job with all your credentials; however, you we need to submit a criminal record check from the state you last lived in. If you are clean then you should be able to find a job within a couple of months or so; maybe sooner if you are lucky, though. Semester has already started nonetheless. You can divulge your ethnic identity, but I would not go and volunteer information unless they ask for it first. And then you could disclose that you are a Korean.  There were plenty of Asian/American, African/American as well as European/American teachers working in the Korean public school system. I worked three years under an EPIK contract.
As far as jobs in Taiwan, it would be better for you to come here and arrange yourself a face to face interview. Anyway, keep plugging at. What goes around comes around.  |
At the very mention of "plenty of Korean-Americans," chills run down my spine. |
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zipper
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| At the very mention of "plenty of Korean-Americans," chills run down my spine. |
Okay then. How about, "There were a few Korean/American teachers in the Masan area I taught in."  Out of 31 teachers in the area I taught, 5 were Korean/American. I met three of them, and they were all from Cali. I think that is very significant, don't you? Oh, don't forget, I also said there were "plenty of African/Americans and European/Americans" which implies that not just only one ethnicity of teachers work in Korea as EFL teachers. That is what I meant and nothing else. I hope that your reply is not a PC attack. |
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nateliu99
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| Does anyone know if it is possible to earn a principal ship degree in Taiwan or China at a University that it will count in in America? |
You want to become a principle but you don't even know what degree you need to become a principle. A little research would help you a lot.
P.S. There is nothing called a principal's degree in the United States. |
Haha, thanks for the help, and the sarcasm as well
You understood what i was talking about right? Whether i call it a principal degree or an admin credential, what difference does it make?
In fact some universities do call this "principalship" programs.
In any case, i was already accepted to get a principal's degree in the UCLA one year program, but i chose to turn it down because i want to travel, so in actuality, you don't need to know exactly what to call it to be getting one.
I just want the same thing but be able to be in Asia |
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JZer
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| In any case, i was already accepted to get a principal's degree in the UCLA one year program, but i chose to turn it down because i want to travel, so in actuality, you don't need to know exactly what to call it to be getting one. |
I think they probably call it a Principal certificate. I don't believe it is a degree but some universities require a Master's in Education Administration before allowing you into the program to study to become a principle.
Do you already have to have a Master's at UCLA do get into the Principal certificate program? |
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nateliu99
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| In any case, i was already accepted to get a principal's degree in the UCLA one year program, but i chose to turn it down because i want to travel, so in actuality, you don't need to know exactly what to call it to be getting one. |
I think they probably call it a Principal certificate. I don't believe it is a degree but some universities require a Master's in Education Administration before allowing you into the program to study to become a principle.
Do you already have to have a Master's at UCLA do get into the Principal certificate program? |
No, i don't believe you have to have that, as i did not have one. Those programs usually require that you be a teacher for some number of years, like at least 2-4 i think, and then it is just a matter of writing great essays, rec letters, and sometimes they require that you held some kind of out of class room position, like ESL coordinator or Title 1. I'm pretty sure most people just call it an admin credential.
Someone earlier said just teach during the year and then come for summer to be a principal. I don't think that works. The shortest I've ever seen for an admin program is like one year and a half of being in a cohort and you usually have to teach at the same time to implement programs and see their affects on your classrooms
Anyone know maybe what is a university that is no joke in china or taiwan and no one would dispute a degree from there? |
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JZer
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A summer program would require several summers of study. I am guessing their are summer only programs since some current teachers probably lack the time to become principles during the school year.
You cannot become a principle in the US with a principle certificate from China. Furthermore to work in an international school you will need qualifications from an English speaking country at the least. |
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nateliu99
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Hmmmmm
I was hoping someone had some insight into American universities with campuses in China or Taiwan
Aren't some worldwide recognized universities, like Beijing University or something? |
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JZer
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I don't believe that any American University has a campus in China. Some universities have degree programs hosted by Chinese universities. Those are often MBA's or degrees in Management. Pick up a copy of the Economist and you will see many advertisements for dual degree programs in China and other Asian countries.
The University of North Carolina has an MBA program which part of it takes place in Taiwan.
There is one American university that offers a useless degree in China. It is sometimes advertised on Dave's. If they made it an M.A. in TESOL it would be much more useful. Instead it is call a degree in Chinese culture I
You can check this degree in International Studies out:
believe.http://www.cui.edu/academicprograms/graduate/internationalstudies/
This would be a great program if it lead to a M.A. in TESOL.
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JZer
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If you want to get an American degree abroad in another subject, SIT is a good school to check out. Though you are not going to get a Principle Certificate from them.
http://www.sit.edu/graduate/ |
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