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BillCowher



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Thread has been hijacked by the spelling police Reply with quote

Someone asked for information about Education Experts (I think) and the "discussion" has degenerated into name calling, spelling and syntax policing and nothing is said about the original post. WTF???
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davt



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stay away from them. they are a sham. you will get screwed. BIG TIME. you have been duly warned
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davt



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one more thing, they have teachers there who have no degrees. they have no contract with any major university. you will not get a work visa. you will find it all out when u get there. they are a sham. you will get the short end of the stick unless like other hack ESL teachers you just want a "VACATION". again, you have been duly warned.
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With Malice Toward None



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard a good word about these guys. Seems they are extraction experts.
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svatopluk



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDEX give you HEDEX. It's an absolute farce - Monty Python couldn't do better.

You wouldn't even send your mother-in-law to Qassim. That 'university' is another story altogether. Aside from the academic comedy, the toilets have been blocked for weeks and the whole place reeks of sewage, but rather than go the logical route and get in some plumbers they've spent a month getting the elevator to work... to go up ONE floor. The lights are now on, but it still ain't moving!

If I didn't laugh, I'd cry.
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BillCowher



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Education Experts, Skyline Global Solutions Reply with quote

I wish I had never heard of EdEx. They are late with my first pay, late the second month in a row for other western teachers and the Arab teachers have not been paid in 5 months. Sketchy might be a polite description of them and all of us were hired with Global Skyline Solutions as the initial recruiter.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot resist saying I TOLD YOU SO

Resist any temptation to come to KSA through recruiter or subcontractor.

Either come direct hire - with a visa that gives you an "Igama" or stay wherever you are now.

KSA is difficult enough without getting all these extra problems.
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tacomaboywa



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
I cannot resist saying I TOLD YOU SO

Resist any temptation to come to KSA through recruiter or subcontractor.

Either come direct hire - with a visa that gives you an "Igama" or stay wherever you are now.

KSA is difficult enough without getting all these extra problems.



Yes! Stay away from these recruiters. If any company tells you you'll come over on a Government Visa or Business Visa just say NO. The only way to get an Iqama is on an Employment Visa.


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dnaleslie



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've clarified that one should only go to KSA on a work/business visa. Still, for those on visit visas, how do you wire money home? Also, are you able to direct deposit your wages into foreign accounts?
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gibon



Joined: 22 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tacomaboywa wrote:
If any company tells you you'll come over on a Government Visa or Business Visa just say NO.


If you come on a Business Visa, does that preclude getting an Employment Visa later?
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
If you come on a Business Visa, does that preclude getting an Employment Visa later?


Not neccessarily. There are occasions when employers hire people on business visas and have them converted to working visas within a few months. However, if you do agree to come on a business visa, get it in writing that it will be converted to a work visa asap. If your employer won't agree to do this for you, do not take the job.
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gibon



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Cleopatra, thanks for answering my question.

I had a telephone interview with a recruiter (not the one this thread is about); they are taking up references, so hopefully they will be making an offer. They mentioned the possibility of starting in the autumn or starting in May. I had been applying for posts starting after Ramadan, however the chance to start in May could be very convenient for me.

The interviewer (who came across as honest and trustworthy) said their company have an annual quota of Iqamas which they've run out of, and can't arrange one until the summer, so if I come in May it will have to be on a business visa for the first few months. He explained that without an Iqama I won't be able to open a bank account or buy a car, and was clear that it isn't an ideal situation.

I have two questions:
firstly, there seems to be conflicting information on this site about the drawbacks of not having an Iqama; what's the real situation? Would it be such a huge handicap, and would it be possible to send money back to Europe to cover some expenses I may have there, buy a pre-paid sim card, etc? Are there any other drawbacks that might be a problem between May and the summer?
Secondly, if the worst came to worst, and I spent a year in Saudi without an Iqama, would it cause a problem in the future, should I wish to work there for another organisation?

Any advice much appreciated.
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gibon



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any advice would really help - I need to give an answer by the end of this week at the latest!

Thanks
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go fer it. All advice on this board is irrelevant.

NCTBA
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BillCowher



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:57 pm    Post subject: Who is the recruiter? Reply with quote

gibon wrote:
@ Cleopatra, thanks for answering my question.

I had a telephone interview with a recruiter (not the one this thread is about); they are taking up references, so hopefully they will be making an offer. They mentioned the possibility of starting in the autumn or starting in May. I had been applying for posts starting after Ramadan, however the chance to start in May could be very convenient for me.

The interviewer (who came across as honest and trustworthy) said their company have an annual quota of Iqamas which they've run out of, and can't arrange one until the summer, so if I come in May it will have to be on a business visa for the first few months. He explained that without an Iqama I won't be able to open a bank account or buy a car, and was clear that it isn't an ideal situation.

I have two questions:
firstly, there seems to be conflicting information on this site about the drawbacks of not having an Iqama; what's the real situation? Would it be such a huge handicap, and would it be possible to send money back to Europe to cover some expenses I may have there, buy a pre-paid sim card, etc? Are there any other drawbacks that might be a problem between May and the summer?
Secondly, if the worst came to worst, and I spent a year in Saudi without an Iqama, would it cause a problem in the future, should I wish to work there for another organisation?

Any advice much appreciated.


Do you mind telling us who the recruiter is? You might get a better feel for them if others have had experiences with them in the past.

You also might ask yourself this series of questions. "Who will bring me to Saudi at their expense and then in a couple of months send me back to my home country for a month or so and then bring me back?" "If that happens (which I seriously doubt) does my year contract start over with another 3 month probationary period?" "Who pays for for my flight back home and for my hotel and other expenses while in the city where the visa will be obtained?"

On the other hand, if you arrive on one of those illegal to work visas you can leave the country any time you wish (at your own expense of course); which is something you cannot do once you are on an iqama. Personally I would have a difficult time making up my mind as to which way I wanted to do things. In KSA without an iqama it is very difficult to do most normal things like rent a car or even get a post office box.
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