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Sheikh N Bake
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| Oh, they DO look at your perceived attitude at HCT. You got ta git yer MIND right...and no back talk. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Advertisement was changed |
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| Hatcher wrote: |
| They offered me a job in Fujarah but I passed as I thought I would be offered one of the other jobs. |
There was your fatal assumption. If you had asked here before turning it down, we would have warned you. I do know a few people who got an offer in a year or two after turning a previous offer down, but that was in TEFL where they have so many more openings. Many of the business classes are pretty basic and can be taught by non-business degree holders, so that put you at a disadvantage.
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helenl
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| Perhaps I wasn't specific enough Eisenhorn, I wasn't disagreeing with you, just that although their Master's is in EFL the teachers originally hired as EFL have relevant content experience in industry and so have been seconded to that area. |
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helenl
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| Hatcher, if you didn't want to be in Fujairah there are several "diplomatic" ways of working around being offered a job there (and getting into one of the other campuses). Unfortunately, HCT is easily offended when someone appears to say, "No, I don't want that college, I want this other one" - They are like a small child who takes their ball (job offer)and goes home. |
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Hatcher
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:35 am Post subject: Thanks |
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| The reason I rejected it was that they they told me I could apply for as many jobs as I wanted. They never told me that I would only get one offer. |
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Eisenhorn
Joined: 25 Oct 2009
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Location: HCT Land. UAE
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| helenl wrote: |
| Perhaps I wasn't specific enough Eisenhorn, I wasn't disagreeing with you, just that although their Master's is in EFL the teachers originally hired as EFL have relevant content experience in industry and so have been |
H1.
I think that may be it, but I have heard of at least one branch director telling an EFL instructor that they would be teaching Business in the HD 2nd semester program as a "reward" for all the work they do for the school.
That particular EFL instructor has very little business experience. I'm not complaining (really I'm not, he is a good teacher and has picked up the basics very well).
As I was replying to the OP, you need to get hired by HCT (or any other uni really) and then you can move into a position you like. Sometimes those moves DO NOT have the fully required degree/experience that a NEW HIRE would have to have. And sometimes they do. It really depends on the branch where you are posted, what they need, how flexible you are and most importantly (IMHO) how much the director/your supervisors like you. seconded to that area |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Hatcher wrote: |
| The reason I rejected it was that they they told me I could apply for as many jobs as I wanted. They never told me that I would only get one offer. |
But, I expect that you didn't ask them either. I wonder if they would have answered honestly if you had. (we would have warned you)
Their procedure is that they pass a number of CVs on to the directors who are looking... once Fujairah chose you, you were pretty much out of the running for the other positions. They don't want their directors having to compete with each other. That would put the small colleges like Fujairah or MZ at a major disadvantage as many people don't want to go to either place.
And yes... often they are shooting themselves in the foot by losing good people...
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helenl
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| As has been pointed out in another thread, we might have been able to give you some advice on the "applying for as many jobs as you like" with HCT. Hopefully, you'll be reconsidered in 6 months, but having rejected the original offer - I'd be looking at other possibilities seriously in the meantime. |
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harrykylee
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How's is it like working for HCT as a content instructor? Would the work environment, housing and remuneration be similar to EFLers? Thanks.  |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| harrykylee wrote: |
| How's is it like working for HCT as a content instructor? Would the work environment, housing and remuneration be similar to EFLers? |
In a word... yes. Often the work environment is better in content areas... fewer teachers... fewer extra demands (TEFL is in constant "re-invent the wheel" mode  )
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helenl
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| And while content areas have their share of "eccentrics" they are not usually AS eccentric as some EFLers. Another bonus, a lot fewer meetings in my experience - for some reason EFL supervisors feel the need to have meetings coming out their ears. |
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