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scooby doo



Joined: 30 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's a page with bio data that the teachers upload along with their resume and certificates, etc. Sometimes they include their email and phone numbers. registered employers can freely browse these pages so maybe that's how he got the contact details.
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yeuxbleu



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
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Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so glad that the general consensus is that the company is all right and that the "lawyer" is a crazy person, because I really like Serious Teachers.

And yes, he got my contact information because I made it publicly available for employers to view.
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Lisa M



Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Scooby doo is incorrect. Go to the site and you can see that it is just the teacher introduction and private information remains private. Employers can only see it when they pay as I mentioned before. They would also have to be a registered employer anyway. This site is actually much more open. ST is a very secured site. All of this is quite obvious if you navigate around the site.
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scooby doo



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lisa M, I said the bio data page, not the introduction. and I did say registered employers. To me that means employers who have paid the advertising fee. I have used this site several times so I think I know what I'm talking about.

BTW, what I really disliked about the service is the hundreds of emails from 'potentially serious' teachers who filled my in-box every morning as seriousteachers was sending me ALL the teachers in their database, not just the ones who were really interested in my ad. Thus giving the impression that my ad was generating hundreds (literally) of applicants.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm so glad that the general consensus is that the company is all right and that the "lawyer" is a crazy person, because I really like Serious Teachers.

And yes, he got my contact information because I made it publicly available for employers to view.


That does clarify things a bit.

Just to clarify on my side- general consensus IS that the "lawyer" is probably a looney toon with an axe to grind, and shouldn't be taken seriously.

General consensus varies about SeriousTeachers. I know of no reason to believe that they're fraudulent, but am not particularly impressed with their services. I'm sort of confused by Lisa's information, though. I wonder about:

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He is making it up because he was trying to get to some of their teachers on their site by placing an ad and asking them for money for a VISA to Japan and he was immediately stopped as this is stated on their forum.


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Go to the site and you can see that it is just the teacher introduction and private information remains private. Employers can only see it when they pay as I mentioned before. They would also have to be a registered employer anyway.


I don't know if I'm misreading this, but it seems to me that the "lawyer" got kicked off the board for being some sort of a visa scam artist, but after that, in retaliation, he started sending emails such as the one the OP received, getting their details because he still had access to the site as a registered employer.

I'm not sure about the sequence, but this is how it looks from what's been said so far. Though anyone can have a looney (or fake lawyer) get after them, and have it not be their fault, it doesn't make me want to run out and register with SeriousTeachers.


best,
Justin
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askiptochina



Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see them as a scam service, but I don't deal with them simply cause they auto contact you cold without any human element to it.

If they were a "serious" recruiting agency, they would get a recruiter to read your resume and see where you want to work and then contact you with some idea of what you want.

So, I pass on them. Until they show some human element on their side, I am not convinced I want to go with them.
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Lisa M



Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is silly. They can't humanely contact 40,000 subscribers. When you register you put the countries of your choice and they send you jobs ONLY for those countries, which is obviously automated. If you are interested you go and apply. It is an advanced system so that is why.
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Lisa M



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Justin that seems to be exactly what happened. But I do not understand, you said that you are not particulary happy with their services but you have never registered? That doesn't make much sense. I think you should try it first before making that opinion. Actually if you read the posts, general consensus is that everyone is pretty happy with ST, not that it varies.
Also again to clarify they are not a recruiting service so a recruiter from their company does not go and read the resumes. They are a job board and the flow of the panel is amazing. Don't take my word. Register and see for yourself. You can see I am fairly passionate because of the fact that in this market, I have gotten 2 jobs from the site and with relative ease but obviously like the other poster if you do not understand the basics that they are not even a recruiting company, then you would not be able to work with the site properly. Not sure why the skepticism, because in fact the site is very transparent, actually mainly because of the automation. When you get hired, you enter hired, so therefore their hired number of 11,747 is impressive. (Just to note when I entered hired, I refreshed and the number did add 1) If you are inactive, you are reminded you are inactive after a few months. Very interactive and tons of features. You have to navigate properly and read everything fully especially when you register, that is the key in order to take advantage of all the features. But their is a flow and it is not difficult at all.
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Lisa M



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry! there is a flow....not their....don't want to get pummeled for a spelling error.... Very Happy
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Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry about that. There are, however, those who'd break out the pointy sticks for not writing 'pummelled'. Surprised
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Lisa M



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm....nope it is pummeled....
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pummeled
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a typical US/UK spelling difference, as your own link shows. Or is that 'speling diference'. Can never seem to get it right.
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sashadroogie,

Well, the so-called spelling rule for two syllable verbs is - stress on the first syllable, don't double. stress on the second syllable, double

e.g. enter/entered prefer/preferred

But then, spelling rules are a pet peeve of mine.

Regards,
John
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I do not understand, you said that you are not particulary happy with their services but you have never registered? That doesn't make much sense.


Well, I didn't say anything about my happiness, to tell you the truth. I said I wasn't impressed. Not really the same thing at all. Let me try to make it very clear: Nothing I have heard or seen about SeriousTeachers makes me want to register with them. Their advertising and the remarks I've heard from people who have used them fail to impress me in any positive way, so why would I?

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Actually if you read the posts, general consensus is that everyone is pretty happy with ST, not that it varies.


Read the posts where? I'm reading the posts on this thread, which is what I was summarizing, and I see that opinions do, in fact, vary. Scooby Doo has used seriousteachers, as an employer, and had some pros and some cons.

Askiptochina feels that they aren't a scam, but doesn't choose to use them.

I agree that there's nothing fraudulent in the situation herein described, but am singularly unimpressed with their services.

While we're at it, the OP likes their services, and has received crazy, vaguely intimidating email as a result of using them.

Yes, I am seeing a variety of opinions here.

If you mean that I should read the posts on SeriousTeachers's own website...well, we can all see the inherent problem with that.

Best,
Justin
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Lisa M



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am only saying that you cannot really say you are unimpressed unless you actually register and look for a job and see how it is. I would assume that is a fair statement.
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