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toocaty



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: pay Reply with quote

in regards to pay in a colegio, here in vallarta - primary school
you can expect to recieve anywhere from 8,000- 14,000 per month depending on your credencials, and what school you apply at. The money is also reflective to the hours you are expected to work. some schools expect you to stay until 4pm and also attend workshops on sat. where other that may pay a little less allow you to go home at 2:30 and fo not expect you to be there very sat. so you really need to figure out what each school offers and expects.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: Pay in colegios Reply with quote

Tretyakovskii wrote:
Prof Gringo, or anyone else familiar with the subject, you may have said something about this on another thread, but I wondered if you would be willing to tell us what range of pay people with proper qualifications and experience could expect teaching at colegios, and what the age range is of the students, typically?


$8-12,000 pesos per month seems the norm.

But there are many colegios that pay as little as $4,000-$5,000 pesos per month.

And some of the higher-end schools pay $18,000-$20,000+ monthly.

All of the above rates are for the Mexico DF Metro area.
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Pay in colegios Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:
Tretyakovskii wrote:
Prof Gringo, or anyone else familiar with the subject, you may have said something about this on another thread, but I wondered if you would be willing to tell us what range of pay people with proper qualifications and experience could expect teaching at colegios, and what the age range is of the students, typically?


$8-12,000 pesos per month seems the norm.

But there are many colegios that pay as little as $4,000-$5,000 pesos per month.

And some of the higher-end schools pay $18,000-$20,000+ monthly.

All of the above rates are for the Mexico DF Metro area.

Pretty much the same here in SLP. Unless you're full-time and can survive on the above mentioned wages, you'll need to work in at least two places. It's tiring, it's not fun, your teaching suffers, you're unemployed for 3 months of the year but there are very few full-time opportunities (that pay well) here.

Company classes are where the money is - though more often than not for the person that gets you the classes, not necessarily you. I've done my time in companies and swore I wouldn't go back to it unless I got a really good offer, which I did a few months back.

As an English teacher, they'll always be plenty of work (compared to teaching other subjects) so don't think you can't pick and choose who you work for.
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toocaty



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: colegios Reply with quote

I still have to hold onto the colegios being the best way,
- it is a stable wage every 15 days,
- you should get vacation pay for xmas, easter and summer vacations,
- plus you can get seguro social....(health ins. - a confusing system here) but still health ins.
- there is no running from one job to another,
and if you budget you can do it
or take on some of your students that are a little behind and give them extra classes in your own home. and yes the parents will bring them there and pay you.

again this is vallarta, not sure about other places, but i can't see why it would be much different.

the wages are usually appropriate for the area. in D.F wages will be lower than touristy areas, because everything is cheaper there.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toocaty wrote:
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the wages are usually appropriate for the area. in D.F wages will be lower than touristy areas, because everything is cheaper there.


Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on that blanket statement. Wages overall are actually lower in the tourist areas than in the Big Taco! I have lived and worked in a beach resort city for over 10 years. There are very few jobs for foreigners here, and wages are sad. It's also very difficult to get the good jobs unless you have lived here a long time, and have established ties. I have read the same from teachers who have been in other resort areas, as well.
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Tretyakovskii



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: Pay Reply with quote

Thanks, guys, for all the good details on pay- high end, low end, and typical range. No substitute for numbers when it comes to this subject. With wages tending to be low it's useful to know there are better paying options out there when you've put in the time to find or develop them.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Pay Reply with quote

I don't think there are any great paying TEFL gigs in Mexico. It's sad to see what teachers are making in places that are less developed and have a lower cost of living compared to Mexico.

And I have not seen wages increase much in 5 years. Maybe a little. But not enough to even keep up with the cost of living.

My first gig paid me almost $9,000 pesos a month under the table. With no experience and fresh outta TEFL school. I thought it was low pay at the time, but I now realize it was pretty decent.
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toocaty



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: i must agree Reply with quote

I must agree with prof.gringo. There is not a lot of money in Mexico.
You don't come to mexico to make money, you come here to enjoy the life.... I wanted to come here out of school, but could not afford it. I went to Korea first. I paid off my student loans, paid off my car loans, traveled a bit and saved up some money then I came to mexico. I would never have been able to pay my loans off here or survive the first couple months without savings.
I am sttled now, I have a house, and a comfortable teaching job. I say comfortable because I still think I should be making more! but i enjoy the life here sooo.... what can you do?
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: i must agree Reply with quote

toocaty wrote:
I must agree with prof.gringo. There is not a lot of money in Mexico.

Not in teaching per se but once you get established here Mexico is your oyster, it being the last free country in North America.
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Spector



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: i must agree Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:
toocaty wrote:
I must agree with prof.gringo. There is not a lot of money in Mexico.

Not in teaching per se but once you get established here Mexico is your oyster, it being the last free country in North America.


Very Happy

Could you expand on that last comment? The bit about getting established in Mexico. Oh and while you're at it, what do mean about it being the last free country in North America? Was that a pop at Obama? Laughing
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sroetem



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: pop Reply with quote

I thought it was strange...'the last free country' comment.

I didn't think there were any of those left in N.Am.
Not really sure why Barack was brought up. What would he
have to do with the comment, I'm curious?
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think foreigners, esp. those from 1st world countries see Mexico as being more of a free country. But I think that's a misperception.

I think the issue has more to do with the high levels of corruption and poor policing that exist in Mexico.

For example: If you have a party going at 2am with music blasting, in many places the cops are going to shut you down. Not so in Mexico.

You're riding in a public bus and the bus driver lights up and starts smoking. Same happens in taxis. Are there laws against doing that? Probably. Are they enforced? Seldom if ever.

You're walking around the mall and people are smoking. There are signs telling them it's prohibited, but people do it anyways.

So what some call a "free" country I call a land of anarchy and lawlessness.
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