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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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argus eyed wrote: |
Veiled..remember...I love you just as much as all your HCT colleagues did the day you were "ahem"...I mean the day you decided to go on to greener pastures. |
Thank you so much for my laugh of the day. I suspect that your new name will not protect you.
Does depression cause trolling? Repeated trolling? For years? Sad little man...
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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O.K., O.K., I tried to help out this query at the beginning of this saga and have seen it drag on FOREVER.
To the OP: Yes, by all means come to sunny, funny saudi araby!
And, yes, anti-depressants are available. They're called "Exit-Only Visas"!
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Mia Xanthi

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 955 Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:51 am Post subject: |
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And, yes, anti-depressants are available. They're called "Exit-Only Visas"! |
Yes, those are the best available on the market...but so hard to come by!  |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:56 am Post subject: |
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I cannot imagine what the motives of "argus-eyed" are in posting her 'ad personam' attacks here
As for qualified pharmacists in KSA I have found many who are willing to give free advice and many who are competent and know what they are talking about. This is not always the case with posters on this forum. |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Yes, those are the best available on the market...but so hard to come by! |
Not really. If posters on this forum are to be believed (aren't they?) all you need do is walk into your local friendly embassy. Then you'll have that visa in your hand in no time at all! |
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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To Those Using Panadol Night For Sleeping:
[Tylenol PM is US equivalent]
Yes, it works wonders. And I really love it because it gives me really vivid and wacky dreams. I used to use it quite frequently, at least twice a week, but I have cut that back to about once a month. First of all, Panadol/Tylenol taxes your liver and kidneys, and the more you take, the quicker you will reach the tipping point when one day your body won't be able to handle the drug anymore. IOW, you will develop a severe reaction everytime you take it. That's one reason not to take it regularly, especially for older people. It is the not the Panadol in Panadol Night that you need (unless you have pain/aches as well), so you do not want to hasten the day when you actually need pain-relief but taking Panadol will swell up your whole body and make you feel terrible because you took too many Panadols when younger.
Another reason is the ingredient that causes the drowsiness, diphenhydramine (also found in cough syryps such as Benadryl and Benylin). It is a powerful antihistamine actually, and drowsiness is just a side effect of it. However, there are many other side effects as well, and it should be avoided in the elderly. However, if you really need to take diphenhydramine as an anti-allergic or a sleep-aid, don't take Panadol Night, take one of many products containing just diphenhydramine (listed in the wiki link). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenhydramine_hydrochloride and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beers_Criteria
So what's the alternative?
Melatonin
Melatonin is a natural hormone found in our bodies, its function being regulating the sleep cycle! It is available at GNC in Saudi (and at Boots in the UK and Walgreens in the US, among many other places). I have become a big fan of it recently, as it works almost as well as Panadol Night in inducing sleep and vivid dreams, about 75% as well. Not only that, it is also a powerful antioxidant, and is being researched for treatments for cancer, Alzheimer's, infertility, and more! It has almost no side effects, and is very safe. Especially receommended when travelling and/or suffering from jet lag. See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin |
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Kornan DeKobb
Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 242
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
Dear cmp45,
It's OK - argus eyed wasn't writing about "advice" - just "adice."
Regards,
John |
Dear John,
Are you sure you can get "adice" in KSA? Aren't gambling games like craps illegal?
Just wunderin'.
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Kornan DeKobb.
Craps, of course, is illegal. Crap, however, is not only legal but is also ubiquitous in the Kingdom.
Regards,
John |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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trapezius wrote: |
To Those Using Panadol Night For Sleeping:
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Thanks to Cleo and Trapezius for supplying the info on Panadol Night--very useful. I've been using the medicine for the past 10 nights and found it helps me considerably more than Tylenol PM. I don't have a problem falling asleep; my trouble for many years has been waking up at 3 to 4 am and not getting back to sleep. With Panadol Night I still wake up but go right back to sleep. Yes, nice dreams too. But I suppose it's time to give the internal organs a break.
Xanax is such a wonderful medicine because you not only sleep well but with the right dosage you feel wonderfully relaxed, refreshed and alert the next day. But it's not dissimilar to Valium and thus it obviously can't be taken indefinitely. |
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Kipling

Joined: 13 Mar 2009 Posts: 371 Location: ...Ah Mrs K peel me a grape!!!....and have one yourself!!!!
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Good Lord
Can't any of the advisors on these boards actually get a good nights sleep????
My Method;
Do a hard days work
A cup of cocoa(spiced sometimes with the good old stuff)
A good book such as 'An introduction to theTechniques of Poetry from1053 -1433'
Some good old loving (some may need chemical stimulants-avoid Indian generics- or so me pal says-)
Araucaria crytic crossword
The latest Hollywood Blockbuster
Any political manifesto from the West( though some can't sleep for laughing)
Dip into the complete Works of Virginia McKenna (free, pm me)
Watch any episode of ....................................
Mr ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....................
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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"A Guide to the Grammar Of Medieval Magyar and Finno-Ugrian". That always works for me. |
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Kipling

Joined: 13 Mar 2009 Posts: 371 Location: ...Ah Mrs K peel me a grape!!!....and have one yourself!!!!
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: Wi yea no sang a' sing wi me...................... |
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Original Lallans poetry 1707-1999
OR
A Lament for the Great Music
(if you have it ...I will exchange it for my entire collection of tennis books- ...all narcoleptically authenticated)
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Kipling

Joined: 13 Mar 2009 Posts: 371 Location: ...Ah Mrs K peel me a grape!!!....and have one yourself!!!!
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: A drunk contemplating a thistle........... |
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A Lament for the Great Music
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If my memory serves me correct...and it will have to since the NET is of no help.
"And yet there is no problem in the world today
Save death and Disease which cannot be conquered.
The struggle for material existence is over,
It's been won .................
My recital of this in my younger days would have the room snoring by the second verse, by the third verse i was lolling and dribbling myself.
Nothing like a good polemic to get the average person's Zs activated.... Personally though, this one always got me ready for the day...................
There you go...one man's Morpheus is another mans .........
Mr K
LEGAL NOTICE
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The use of 'man' in above the phrase
'one man's Morpheus is another mans'....
is entirely traditional and generic in use(avoid India) and is not intended
to exclude persons of the same, opposite, intermediate or any other gender whatsoever and if you want to argue about it...well outside NOW!!!
Come on then! Want a piecece of me do ya....eh....
Alright the e is before the i and the c is before e and there shouldn't be a c or an e AFTER peice even if it was spelled(sorry spelt right?? )which it wasn't, but so what.....I am ready and so are my lawyers......
PS. Sorry about that..he fell asleep at the computer...I made sure he got off to bed OK...Mrs K
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Anything by Milton is the ultimate soporific:
"Thus it is not so unfair, as it might at first appear, to say that Milton writes English like a dead language.
"Edgar Alan Poe thought Paradise Lost was too long; he said it is �deprived, through the extremeness of its length, of the vastly important artistic element, totality, or unity, of effect."
Samuel Johnson was one of the many to notice that Milton�s English is so Latin-esque in structure that it is very hard to read: �He was desirous to use English with a foreign idiom�
E.G.
"Say first, for Heav'n hides nothing from thy view
Nor the deep Tract of Hell, say first what cause
Mov'd our Grand Parents in that happy State,
Favour'd of Heav'n so highly, to fall off [ 30 ]
From thir Creator, and transgress his Will
For one restraint, Lords of the World besides?
Who first seduc'd them to that foul revolt?
Th' infernal Serpent; he it was, whose guile
Stird up with Envy and Revenge, deceiv'd [ 35 ]
The Mother of Mankind, what time his Pride
Had cast him out from Heav'n, with all his Host
Of Rebel Angels, by whose aid aspiring
To set himself in Glory above his Peers,
He trusted to have equal'd the most High, [ 40 ]
If he oppos'd; and with ambitious aim
Against the Throne and Monarchy of God
Rais'd impious War in Heav'n and Battel proud
With vain attempt. Him the Almighty Power
Hurld headlong flaming from th' Ethereal Skie [ 45 ]
With hideous ruine and combustion down
To bottomless perdition, there to dwell
In Adamantine Chains and penal Fire,
Who durst defie th' Omnipotent to Arms.
Nine times the Space that measures Day and Night [ 50 ]
To mortal men, he with his horrid crew
Lay vanquisht, rowling in the fiery Gulfe
Confounded though immortal: But his doom
Reserv'd him to more wrath; for now the thought
Both of lost happiness and lasting pain [ 55 ]
Torments him; round he throws his baleful eyes
That witness'd huge affliction and dismay
Mixt with obdurate pride and stedfast hate:
At once as far as Angels kenn he views"
If you can get past the first fifty lines before nodding off, well, you're a better person than I am.
Regards,
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Kipling

Joined: 13 Mar 2009 Posts: 371 Location: ...Ah Mrs K peel me a grape!!!....and have one yourself!!!!
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:46 am Post subject: Refreshed after a good Kip. |
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Anything by Milton is the ultimate soporific:
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With you all the way there Mr J but his poem on his blindness is an exception
but you are right, most of his stuff scores highly on the old Zedometer
The last book of Dante's Divine Comedy 'Paradiso' has pretty much the same effect........What is it about Heaven???
Mr K
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