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funkyj
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JZer
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US$600 a month is easy enough to pay off in Japan.
$1500 will be very difficult for a starting teacher. Heck, it's hard for a veteran!
I hope you aren't expecting free rent, free airfare, and free utilities while you teach abroad. |
funkyj the problem is that Glenski is being misleading. If you go to Korea or China you will get free rent and free airfare. Less than one percent of employers would cover utilities.
In other countries, especially in South America you will almost certainly not get free housing. In the Middle East you would almost certainly get an apartment or stipend for your rent.
I think you should apply for the NET scheme in Hong Kong. The think that the lowest pay for a certified teacher is $4000 US a month plus a $1300 housing stipend if hired from outside of Hong Kong.
Teaching in Hong Kong would probably be better than teaching in New York. |
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Glenski
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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US$600 a month is easy enough to pay off in Japan.
$1500 will be very difficult for a starting teacher. Heck, it's hard for a veteran!
I hope you aren't expecting free rent, free airfare, and free utilities while you teach abroad. |
funkyj the problem is that Glenski is being misleading. If you go to Korea or China you will get free rent and free airfare. Less than one percent of employers would cover utilities. |
Excuse me? "Misleading"? To say the above about China implies that all Chinese employers provide free rent and airfare, but I don't think that is so. And, do all Korean employers pay airfare? Again, I doubt it. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Well in Korea it is probably 90 to 95 percent of employers. I believe in China that it is the law to provide ex-pat workers with certified housing which ex-pats are allowed to live in. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
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US$600 a month is easy enough to pay off in Japan.
$1500 will be very difficult for a starting teacher. Heck, it's hard for a veteran!
I hope you aren't expecting free rent, free airfare, and free utilities while you teach abroad. |
funkyj the problem is that Glenski is being misleading. If you go to Korea or China you will get free rent and free airfare. Less than one percent of employers would cover utilities. |
Excuse me? "Misleading"? To say the above about China implies that all Chinese employers provide free rent and airfare, but I don't think that is so. And, do all Korean employers pay airfare? Again, I doubt it. |
Actually probably 99.5 percent of jobs in Korea do provide free rent. I have never heard of one that does not. Even if the school does not provide the apartment themselves they do offer a housing stipend on top of your salary. |
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Glenski
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JZer,
I suspected that about the rent in Korea, but what about the airfare? |
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JZer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| Most will but due to the demand for English teachers I believe all but the unqualified could find a school that also offers arifare. But if you are flying to Korea in the summer from North America the amount will not cover your airfare. |
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tttompatz
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: |
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JZer,
I suspected that about the rent in Korea, but what about the airfare? |
Outside of a couple of very low-hour university jobs virtually ALL employers will pay (often prepay) airfare to Korea and a return flight at the end of your employment.
PUBLIC schools provide the two-way airfare EVERY YEAR.
Housing is by-and-large "rent free" but you are responsible for your own utilities. Depending on the type of apartment you are in this can run from $40-$200 per month. |
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naturegirl321
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Just for the sake of clarity, are you saying that you need to send 1,500 USD on your debts monthly, and therefore need to earn that much PLUS living expenses as a teacher?
If this is the case - I doubt teaching (anywhere) is going to be feasible. |
It's feasible. With bonuses, extra classes and camps, I'm hoping to save about 25 to 30K this year, dollars, and I'll be supporting myself and husband. It's not that I have a super salary. It's good especially for EFL, but it's also about budgeting. And I pay my own rent as well. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually probably 99.5 percent of jobs in Korea do provide free rent. I have never heard of one that does not. Even if the school does not provide the apartment themselves they do offer a housing stipend on top of your salary. |
Not so, sorry JZer, unis often say they offer housing "if available" and many times it's not. Or because it's a uni and you're earning SO much more than at a hagwon, they expect you to pay. PLUS, uni teachers have often been in Korea for so long that they can put down enough money and not have to pay any rent at all, you know, the chunsae option.
I get no housing, no allowance, and had no help finding housing either. |
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JZer
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I did not say that it is not possible but my belief is that if someone wanted to get a job with housing they would.
I worked at two universities and they both payed for housing. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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I did not say that it is not possible but my belief is that if someone wanted to get a job with housing they would.
I worked at two universities and they both payed for housing
Yes - in a region where this is the norm.
Not true where I am! |
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JZer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| spiral78 wrote: |
I did not say that it is not possible but my belief is that if someone wanted to get a job with housing they would.
I worked at two universities and they both payed for housing
Yes - in a region where this is the norm.
Not true where I am! |
spiral78, we were talking about Korea. Not other regions. I already stated that in some areas you will probably not get housing.
If one wants housing then go to the Middle East or South Korea. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| spiral78 wrote: |
I did not say that it is not possible but my belief is that if someone wanted to get a job with housing they would.
I worked at two universities and they both payed for housing
Yes - in a region where this is the norm.
Not true where I am! |
Scroll up the page and read what I have already posted. |
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spiral78
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Sorry - you're right. I didn't consider the context of the thread.
In the bigger picture, I think this happens to some newbies as well, who read bits and pieces out of context and form erroneous ideas because of that. |
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