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daCabbie

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 244
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:58 am Post subject: No receipt for my salary? |
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My school showed up with my pay today. But they had no receipt. I asked for one and they say it is impossible. I need a receipt to prove my monthly income for my student loans payments to be calculated.
They said, 'No you don't.' I know better. What a headache. I have an idea what is going on but I don't care. I need the receipt. Is this asking for too much? I am so sick of the Chinese run-around.
UGGGGGHHHHHH! |
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LanGuTou
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 621 Location: Shandong
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:21 am Post subject: |
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I guess you are new to China then!  |
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The Ever-changing Cleric

Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:22 am Post subject: |
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there often isn't any official pay slip handed out. any time i've ever received one, its been a handwritten payslip that no financial institution back home would ever accept as proof of anything.
bypass your FAO and go to the school finance office and inquire there. if they can't help you, i think you're out of luck. |
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ttorriel
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 193
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Why not call the tax office and ask them to insist the school provide the necessary proof of salary and thus paid taxes to the government. Sure, you'll probably get fired, but hey, unless someone tries to force employers to follow the law, you'll keep getting screwed and coming here to ask "why oh way?" |
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LanGuTou
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 621 Location: Shandong
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: |
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You have to understand a little about Chinese business methods here. The accountants have to declare your salary to various regulatory bodies but the figure that is given to these bodies is not necessarily the same as the pay given to you. Your employers will not be happy giving you an official document that states this discrepancy! |
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daCabbie

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 244
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Three and a half years in China.
I just want to give my school a little grief. I am still a little angry that my school apartment was robbed. I found out yesterday another FT's apartment was robbed before I came here.
I know there is nothing I can do. I have photoshop for a receipt.
Thanks for the advice. I just needed to blow off some steam and rock the boat a little. |
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ttorriel
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 193
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Another person advocating committing fraud. Sure, just make a fake receipt and submit it to a federally funded system.
Simply call the damn lending agency, and tell them your situation and they'll likely provide a form to you so that you can estimate your earnings.
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Teatime of Soul
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Each month, our school gets a tax receipt for each teacher and presents it to them with their wages. So it is entirely possible.
Try this, tell them you won't bother them with writing a receipt since the tax office already has the records and you'll go there for a copy.
Ought be interesting. |
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johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Type up one yourself and find somebody to put the school's stamp on it; you know, that red ink thing. |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:41 am Post subject: |
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johntpartee wrote: |
Type up one yourself and find somebody to put the school's stamp on it; you know, that red ink thing. |
Best advice. You need some proof. They are obligated to give it to you, but they obviously don't know how. Show them. |
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LanGuTou
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 621 Location: Shandong
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: |
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wangdaning wrote: |
johntpartee wrote: |
Type up one yourself and find somebody to put the school's stamp on it; you know, that red ink thing. |
Best advice. You need some proof. They are obligated to give it to you, but they obviously don't know how. Show them. |
They know how and the official document is available from the accounts office because they are obligated to produce this receipt under labor law of PRC. However, will they give such a document to a FT? See my response a little higher in this thread for reasons why they prefer not to! |
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gene
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 187
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Try this, tell them you won't bother them with writing a receipt since the tax office already has the records and you'll go there for a copy.
Ought be interesting. |
If they haven't paid then there will be no record at the tax office and an inquiry will cause an audit...but remember, taxes must be paid if discovered in the rears and be careful that the obligation doesn't fall on you. It is all "accounting" on the type of classification you job tittle holds.
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Simply call the damn lending agency, and tell them your situation and they'll likely provide a form to you so that you can estimate your earnings. |
Start with this advice first. |
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Ariadne
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 960
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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My first year in China the university where I was working gave us a slip every month with pay, taxes, and utilities. Where I work now our contracts list our salaries 'after taxes'(the school pays the taxes). They used to give us a pay slip showing overtime and deductions nothing about taxes), but they stopped about a year ago. Now we get no written record. If we want to know how much was deducted we have to call the FAO. I have no proof, but I suspect that the school is telling the government that all the FTs earn just less than the taxable amount (which is about 4800 yuan I think) so the university doesn't pay any taxes. We all earn considerably more than that base amount.
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General Franco
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: No receipt for my salary? |
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daCabbie wrote: |
But they had no receipt. |
Of course they had no receipt. Why would they? You hadn't bought anything from them. You confused them by asking for one.
Ask them for a PAY SLIP, a RECORD OF PAYMENT, or something that means the same.... |
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Insubordination

Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 394 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: |
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if discovered in the rears |
Hehehehe!
That is all. |
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