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hewlett77
Joined: 17 Dec 2009
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Location: all over China
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 Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: worrying like hell. |
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To cut the story short I'm here in Shenzhen on an L visa and just signed a contract with a recruiter (Little Dragon English) 3 weeks ago. He basically said He can�t help me with getting a Z visa and has not found a school or a lanague school for me to work for. Making things worse I guess I'm lucky the police came to my building to check everyone�s residence permit 2 days ago but luckily I had regrestered with the local Police station and my visa is current which expires in June but they did not ask about my current work situation. I'm not sure what to do, who to turn to as I have spend a lot of money to settle here in Shenzhen and spending a lot of money buying stuff for my apartment. My gf who is very sweet a Chinese teacher said it�s ok to teach on an L visa as she said many people do it. But for me my conscious is saying no. I�m not stupid and I defiantly don�t want to break the law here.
I have future plans to study for my degree through Hong Kong Open University but that is later this year, but that also depends on money.
I�d like any feedback and maybe good if anyone can point me in the right direction. For now I'm not working anywhere as I have put a freeze on dealing with the current recruiter until I can sort out this mess. |
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mat chen
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
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Location: xiangtan hunan
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| Maybe EXPO. Something strange is happening in China no one seems to know the rules or procedures. Everyone is telling me different stories and I too have spent a load of money trying to straighten things out. Just try to use good English or you will be accused of being a non native speaker on Dave's. I am joking your English is better than most of the non native speakers I work with here in China |
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cormac
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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Location: Xi'an (XTU)
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hewlett77, out of curiosity, have you checked these threads for info? (The stickies at the top)
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=48879
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=26047
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| Maybe EXPO. Something strange is happening in China no one seems to know the rules or procedures. Everyone is telling me different stories and I too have spent a load of money trying to straighten things out. |
I'm confused here. On another thread you're talking about being Blacklisted and having problems with contracts, and now you're saying that nobody knows the rules? This forum is loaded with information about the rules/regulations in China, and the pitfalls that people can fall into.
Do some leg work. Search the forum for information. |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Apr 2005
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In hindsight,
do you think you should have scored a job before 'settling'?
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| I defiantly don�t want to break the law here. |
Compartmentalising things into dichotomies (case in point being 'legal / illegal') is often unrealistic.
In my hometown,
it's legal to shoot a Welshman with a bow and arrow on a Sunday before 12 o'clock on Church Street.
Some people
(especially Japanese people - borne of geographical isolation I guess)
think smoking a joint and jacking up skag must be equally harmful, because both are controlled substances. |
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powerrose
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Location: Shenzhen, China
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| Isn't EF hiring like mad? Also Manhattan Kids Club (which sucks but does sponsor a visa)? What are your qualifications? |
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gene
Joined: 03 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| Compartmentalising things into dichotomies (case in point being 'legal / illegal') is often unrealistic. |
certainly no problem for the police and courts...and verdicts, fines and adjudications are very real.
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| think smoking a joint and jacking up skag must be equally harmful, because both are controlled substances. |
The public's gauge of harmful or not is likely attached to the penalties received for the use and/or possession and likely those who think of the equal harm done are from countries that make little or no differentiation.
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| On another thread you're talking about being Blacklisted and having problems with contracts, and now you're saying that nobody knows the rules? This forum is loaded with information about the rules/regulations in China, and the pitfalls that people can fall into. |
The inability of offices or individuals to answer questions about the rules involved with any given process is a pitfall most of us have come in contact with while serving our masters in the middle kingdom but it has no connection to being black listed or having problems with contracts. Advice given on these boards and others are often the product of rumor mongering & imaginations, or the musings of a drug addled former professional forced into retirement and have little real advice that can be categorized into a useful source of information. The bottom line is everyone will encounter different situations and the ability to deal with those situations will often be a one off solution that will not be useful as a standard operation. Dont take anyone's advice too closely. |
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cormac
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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Location: Xi'an (XTU)
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| gene wrote: |
| The inability of offices or individuals to answer questions about the rules involved with any given process is a pitfall most of us have come in contact with while serving our masters in the middle kingdom but it has no connection to being black listed or having problems with contracts. Advice given on these boards and others are often the product of rumor mongering & imaginations, or the musings of a drug addled former professional forced into retirement and have little real advice that can be categorized into a useful source of information. The bottom line is everyone will encounter different situations and the ability to deal with those situations will often be a one off solution that will not be useful as a standard operation. Dont take anyone's advice too closely. |
The two links I posted for the forum stickies have both personal opinions/experiences, and also quoted information from governmental websites. I'm not suggesting accepting everything that people on this forum have to say, but there are a number of rather sane and well informed individuals on these forums that are consistently worth listening to. Just takes some time, and investigation of the various threads to figure that out.
The reason I mentioned Mat Chen's blacklisting was in regards to his reference about nobody knowing the rules. When it comes to Visa's there is rather clear information on this site. His own personal experience with the blacklisting is different to the OPs problem with Visa's and finding work. |
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