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Arabian Hawk
Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 79 Location: Mystical Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: |
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This seems to be "normal" at this college. It's a pity!  |
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ThaneKerner
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 139
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard that 9 teachers have left (been fired??) Mussana College since the beginning of the academic year in September 2009 - that's a big attrition rate |
Don't even DREAM of going to Al Musanna College of Technology. The students are disrespectful and have all the power over teachers in the classroom, many of the teachers are walking zombies as they know they make no difference and that's the only way they can cope, and morale is so low it needs to be scraped off the floor. And one other thing--there is a plethora of backstabbers at ACT. You never know who will turn on you when it comes to the westerners. There are a couple of teachers there from central Europe, and they're cool. They are a welcome sight as they have passion for teaching in a place that sorely lacks it. I'd trust those folks. But I wouldn't trust the grub worms, the drunks, the morons from the USA and Canada. No way. Unfortunately, the dean, a person who is sadly incompetent at running an English department and should be mercifully shown the door, allows it all to happen. The backstabbing. The teachers coming to work drunk. The morons whose materials are filled with errors because they don't know better and don't care to know better.
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Just avoid Al Musannah. Your career will thank you. And so will your passion for teaching.
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ThaneKerner
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 139
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Arabian Hawk wrote: |
This seems to be "normal" at this college. It's a pity!  |
A pity, Hawk? What are you talking about, you walking Bahwan billboard, you? I'll assume you're simply being facetious.
Every time a teacher does a runner, he/she must be replaced. That means more income for the likes of you, the agency/recruiter. Enough of the crocodile tears, man. Agencies like Bahwan LOVE runners and quitters, meaning they REALLY love Al Musanna College. |
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ThaneKerner
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 139
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
Like that will have any effect...
Newbies have been bailing in very short periods since day one with these recruiter jobs and there has been no shortage of gypsy English teachers to fill their spots... and zero reason to think anything will change.
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Requiring a three-month notice/three month salary if one needs to get out fast doesn't help. It actually encourages running. When you come to a place like Al Musanna College of Technology, see how it's run, and decide within a month or two it's not worth your while, kudos to you. You should be applauded if you leave the hopeless mess.
You guys really crack me up at times. The runner/quitter will be held up as a pariah while drunks and morons are tolerated at these places. And did I mention most of the 'newbies' aren't given an interview nor are their references checked?
Hack me. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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As I said before, a key indicator of bad employers are those that will accept very short notifications. Any employer in the Gulf that allows its faculty to decamp in 1 to 3 months rather than the normal 6 months or one full semester is certain to be just as you describe.
All the recruiter jobs in Oman are and have been for a long time, bottom feeders jobs. There is little vetting which means that half or more of the staff and management will be just what you are describing.
If you want to work at place that is more professional, you must provide decent credentials, be able to do a sensible interview, and apply to the places that give a standard contract that allows a professional environment where teachers don't leave in the middle of semesters because their knickers are in a twist.
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(if you haven't figured out yet that Arabian Hawk is just turning your crank with his posts... ) |
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ETG
Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 67
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: ACT |
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Any employer in the Gulf that allows its faculty to decamp in 1 to 3 months rather than the normal 6 months or one full semester is certain to be just as you describe.
I am curious about this comment , can anyone, currently, working in the Gulf, tell us if they must give a full semester notice to leave?
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jdl

Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 632 Location: cyberspace
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| Poor thanekerner. Many are having a bit of fun at his expense.....not very kind of us, I suppose. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:50 am Post subject: Re: ACT |
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Any employer in the Gulf that allows its faculty to decamp in 1 to 3 months rather than the normal 6 months or one full semester is certain to be just as you describe.
I am curious about this comment , can anyone, currently, working in the Gulf, tell us if they must give a full semester notice to leave?
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We discussed this very topic in the last few months on the board and the current employees of various universities in the Gulf confirmed that it is still as I said. (there were no examples of less except from recruiters)
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ThaneKerner
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 139
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| jdl wrote: |
| Poor thanekerner. Many are having a bit of fun at his expense.....not very kind of us, I suppose. |
Poor me? Hee-hee. Try again. Why would I be crying?
It's "poor teacher who goes to Al Musannah College of Technology". I feel sorry for the guys who get sucked into that whirlpool. |
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ThaneKerner
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
(if you haven't figured out yet that Arabian Hawk is just turning your crank with his posts... ) |
Actually, it's the other way 'round. Let the truth be told about Bahwan.
Time to fan out to the other sites and warn people off of ACT and Bahwan. |
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ThaneKerner
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 139
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| And yet another teacher does a split from ACT. That's 8 I know of since November 1. |
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deathbychocolate
Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 12 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to work at place that is more professional, you must provide decent credentials, be able to do a sensible interview, and apply to the places that give a standard contract that allows a professional environment where teachers don't leave in the middle of semesters because their knickers are in a twist.
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VS would this entail simply searching for universities in Oman and applying direct?
Also, I just got a request from TATI for a scanned image of my passport - is that standard practice? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: |
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TATI is a legitimate recruiter so providing copies of the passport is standard. (they are not selling the info.... and it is necessary for them to start the employment procedures.) That said, don't send it unless you plan to accept the job because their starting a visa application for you would block you from taking a job with anyone else.
The reality is that at this point in the year, there may not be many direct hire jobs left. SQU would be highly unlikely. One option may be the University of Nizwa.
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boundforsaudi

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 243
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmmm. Don't they need your signature on some kind of offer letter to start the visa process? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'm presuming an acceptance of an offer before they would request a scanned copy of your passport. But then perhaps with these recruiters I shouldn't make too many presumptions.
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