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Mister Al
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| caleypatrick, I get RMB1500 per day for 6 hours with a couple of small breaks, and lunch hour in the middle..........disregard if you wish. |
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Trinley
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Mister Al wrote: |
| caleypatrick, I get RMB1500 per day for 6 hours with a couple of small breaks, and lunch hour in the middle..........disregard if you wish. |
Do you mean for a group of students taking private lessons? |
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ShanghaiSurprise
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
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Location: Korea...soon China
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Voldermort wrote:
"I also know a Chinese Physics teacher here (He's actually the best in the city) who charges 100 RMB per hour per student for a 3 hour weekly class of 12 students. He does 8 classes each weekend and never has an empty seat. You work it out."
1) He doesn't sleep on the weekends eh?
2) He teachers for 12 hours on Saturday and 12 hours and Sunday?
3) He earns 28,800 RMB per weekend?
4) He earns 115,200 RMB per month? (based on only 4 weeks a month)
5) You (and him) don't live in a big city... you live in a tiny little place in western China?
Lesson for all kids out there:
Don't smoke crack. |
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ShanghaiSurprise
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
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Location: Korea...soon China
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| caleypatrick wrote: |
| donb2222 wrote: |
I'm in a small city. Two classes on Saturdays, 5 students for 2 and 1/2 hours per class. 100 RMB per student = 500 RMB or 200 RMB per hour.
So, each Saturday is a total of 1000 RMB for 5 hours work.
A friend of mine in the same city, a non-native speaker, is teaching small children at 150 per hour with 5 students per class. |
Your math doesn't add up. It's kind of confusing. Regardless, it adds up to 1250 rmb for 2.5 hours work. Incredible. Specious comes to mind giving the addition mistake. |
Caley,
You misread. Your calculation was for 1 student @ 2.5 hours, paying 100 RMB per hour. However, that calls for 5 separate classes. Then, you have your total of 1250 RMB.
However, the OP has 5 students in each class... and runs 2 classes, not 5. |
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Voldermort
Joined: 14 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| ShanghaiSurprise wrote: |
Voldermort wrote:
"I also know a Chinese Physics teacher here (He's actually the best in the city) who charges 100 RMB per hour per student for a 3 hour weekly class of 12 students. He does 8 classes each weekend and never has an empty seat. You work it out."
1) He doesn't sleep on the weekends eh?
2) He teachers for 12 hours on Saturday and 12 hours and Sunday?
3) He earns 28,800 RMB per weekend?
4) He earns 115,200 RMB per month? (based on only 4 weeks a month)
5) You (and him) don't live in a big city... you live in a tiny little place in western China?
Lesson for all kids out there:
Don't smoke crack. |
I take offense at your last comment there!
Anybody who has spent a year or more in China would know that the Chinese work extremely hard for their money. 12 hours of work a day (excluding any break) is nothing compared to what most of the locals do. Teachers, being the case here, do a 7am to 10pm day with a 3 hour break in the noon.
Also, given the time of year with the final exams, it is not uncommon for students to be wanting extra classes and teachers to be giving those classes. Nowhere in my post did I mention he does this as an all year round thing. Infact, these last 3 months are the busiest time of year for anybody teaching outside the 'normal' teaching hours.
Anybody who lives in China must ask themselves how teachers can afford 3 houses and to drive around in brand new Ford's and BMW's when the average teachers salary is only 3,000 RMB per month (excluding bonuses).
On another note, within the last 6 months the law's have changed in China preventing those teachers working for public schools to make 'extra' money like this. Another of China's attempts to stop the ever widening gap between the rich and the poor. But that's another topic. |
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MisterButtkins
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| Laurence wrote: |
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| in China you get to have Chinese costs of living |
look, please:
if you cut back on living costs here (compared to back home in a western country)
you'll also be cutting back on your quality of life.
China is only cheaper to live in because most people here don't have a car and live in a shoddy apartment.
You can tutor in Chicago and live like a hobo and save money too of you want. |
I find this grossly untrue. How about some numbers:
24 oz Bottle of beer in China: 2 yuan, approx .32 $
(bad)24 oz bottle of beer in US: 1.29$
Dinner for 2 in China: 40 yuan, approx US 6$
Dinner for 2 in America: at least 20 $
500 ml bottle of water in China: 1 yuan
500 ml bottle of water in US: 1 $
DVD in China: 8 yuan
DVD in Ameria: 10-20$
Cost of 1 hour cab ride in China: approx 50 yuan, or 8 dollars
Cost of 1 hour cab ride in US: No idea, but surely more than 8 dollars
I don't have a car because I don't need a car living here. China doesn't have the same issues with automobile dependency that America does and I can live practically without a car, thus saving money. I don't consider this to be 'lowering my standard of living'; in fact, I much prefer living in a pedestrian friendly area.
My apartment is reasonably nice. It's not the best apartment in the world but as a temporary residence it's more than adequate.
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The Ever-changing Cleric
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Voldermort wrote: |
| Anybody who lives in China must ask themselves how teachers can afford 3 houses and to drive around in brand new Ford's and BMW's when the average teachers salary is only 3,000 RMB per month (excluding bonuses). |
they can do that because they often marry someone who's making a lot more money than they are. |
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ShanghaiSurprise
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Voldermort wrote: |
| donb2222 wrote: |
I never said each student pays 100 per hour. I said 100 per student.
Each student pays 100 RMB for a 2 1/2 hour class.
I have 5 students in each class, and 2 classes every Saturday. |
That works out at 40 RMB per hour per student. Don't take this the wrong way but I think you're selling yourself a bit short.
I do 5 students each class, for two hours per week and charge them a steady 650 RMB per month (This price includes a textbook valued at 40 RMB). It works out at 75 RMB per hour per student. 1 to 1 classes are obviously charged much higher than that but I prefer working with small groups.
I also know a Chinese Physics teacher here (He's actually the best in the city) who charges 100 RMB per hour per student for a 3 hour weekly class of 12 students. He does 8 classes each weekend and never has an empty seat. You work it out! |
Please look at what you originally wrote.
For you, and for the physics teacher, you write in the same way.
For you: You wrote that you teach 1 class 2 hours per week? First assumption is that you do it every week...ongoing. That's what you want us to assume. If I came out and just assumed you only do that for 3 months, you'd get mad and ask why I would assume that. And you'd be right, because it's rather obvious that everyone assumes things are ongoing unless stated otherwise.
Then for the physics teacher: You speak in the same way, with no mention of limited work. Of course, the assumption is the same.
So why "now" do you start talking about how you never directly said it was every week of the year. Well as shown above, that's just logical, and how everyone talks.
Anyways, that's why that was assumed.
Now, with regards to these claims about the guy's earnings...
I just don't believe he's earning 1200 RMB per hour in some small(ish) city/town in western China, and people are beating down his door for seats.
I'm entitled to my opinion... and I just think the information you've provided isn't accurate.
I'm sorry I offended you. In the future I'll try to remember you're a sensitive guy.  |
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Mr. English
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
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Location: Nakuru, Kenya
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:02 am Post subject: rates |
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| I'm in Guangzhou: I charge 150 to 225 per hour depending on travel time. Classes I can walk to in 15 minutes or less are 170 give or take a little; 20 minutes or less by bus or subway are 200 give or take a little; more than 20 minutes, 225 give or take. The highest I am getting for a one-to-one class is 180. The give or take depends on various factors; one has to be flexible. I have been teaching privately for four months and do not yet have enough students to be full-time with it. I also work at a private school, teaching one-on-one or to small groups, for 130 per hour. |
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daCabbie
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| MisterButtkins wrote: |
Cost of 1 hour cab ride in US: No idea, but surely more than 8 dollars
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about 40$ an hour. You must pay up front and the pretty girl has to ride on my lap.... haha, hehe |
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Yu
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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It largely depends on your qualifications and if the person really wants quality tutoring or not.
I think 150 is the most common rate I hear of in Shanghai. People I know getting this rate have little teaching experience and no TEFL certification.
I currently am tutoring the daughter of a friend. She pays 400 for 1.5 hours. She is Korean. I find that the Korean and Japanese families pay more money for the tutoring services than the Chinese families pay.
The other part time work I do is for a uni. It pays 300/hr. I actually was paid 400 per hour for one class I taught there, but when they said they could only give me one class at that rate for the next session, I said I would take 300 and they gave me 2 classes. The 400 class was a academic writing course dealing with how to write research papers and it had 30 students. The other classes are just academic writing/speaking/reading and they only have between 9 and 13 students. I do not have the impression this situation is common and I was told other teachers make 150 for teaching at this school. |
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