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jerrycomo
Joined: 26 Jun 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: My spoken English isn't 100% perfect, am I still employable? |
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It's about 90% spoken, 100% understood, one can detect a slight accent.
Will employers care? |
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TeresaLopez

Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 601 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Depends on where you want to go, here in Mexico, no, it won't matter in any of the language institutes, even the better paying ones, they are always short of teachers. And perhaps having learned English yourself will be an advantage as you will have some insights into how learning of a new language takes place. |
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jerrycomo
Joined: 26 Jun 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:20 am Post subject: |
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[quote="TeresaLopez"]Depends on where you want to go, here in Mexico, no, it won't matter in any of the language institutes, even the better paying ones, they are always short of teachers. And perhaps having learned English yourself will be an advantage as you will have some insights into how learning of a new language takes place.[/quote]
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 1520 Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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TeresaLopez wrote: |
Depends on where you want to go, here in Mexico, no, it won't matter in any of the language institutes, even the better paying ones, they are always short of teachers. And perhaps having learned English yourself will be an advantage as you will have some insights into how learning of a new language takes place. |
In Mexico, most language institutes have many Mexican teachers whose English isn't always that wonderful. They will probably give you some kind of written test of English grammar and will interview you, of course, to check out your command of the spoken language. Keep in mind that even the better-paying schools don't pay that well, which could be one reason why they're usually short of teachers ! |
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jerrycomo
Joined: 26 Jun 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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How about in South American and Asian countries? Is perfect spoken English required? |
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johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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In China I met a man from Ghana who spoke heavily accented English, he taught middle school; also a Pole who had a "discernible" accent, but he was also fluent in Chinese. |
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jerrycomo
Joined: 26 Jun 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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johntpartee wrote: |
In China I met a man from Ghana who spoke heavily accented English, he taught middle school; also a Pole who had a "discernible" accent, but he was also fluent in Chinese. |
Hallelujah, there's hope! |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:17 am Post subject: |
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jerrycomo wrote: |
johntpartee wrote: |
In China I met a man from Ghana who spoke heavily accented English, he taught middle school; also a Pole who had a "discernible" accent, but he was also fluent in Chinese. |
Hallelujah, there's hope! |
Maybe, depends what passport you have? In some countries they would employ any white face but you would still need a passport from the U.S., Canada, England, Ireland, Australia, South Africa, or New Zealand to have your visa processed to work legally as an English teacher. Those are government regulations.
In South America it would be less of a problem since many teachers do not have legal work permits anyways. In Asia you cannot so easily hop the border every month. Japan and Taiwan or islands so it will at least cost one $300US to leave the country.
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:56 am Post subject: |
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jerrycomo wrote: |
How about in South American and Asian countries? Is perfect spoken English required? |
That would largely depend on where in Asia you are thinking about.
In some countries it would depend more on your academic credentials than your accent and spoken ability.
In some countries it would only depend on your country of origin (what passport do you hold).
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jerrycomo
Joined: 26 Jun 2010 Posts: 15
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:28 am Post subject: |
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I'm from Canada, is that a foot or two in the door? |
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johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:30 am Post subject: |
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You're from an English speaking country. That will help. I'm assuming your first language is French? |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:49 am Post subject: |
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For some countries/employers, you are in fact a native speaker.
Not really, but...for visa and employment purposes, "have Canadian passport" is actually one definition of native.
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Justin |
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Mrs McClusky
Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 133
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Well. You had better be a good teacher because if you are only soso you will be open for negative stuff and a probable sacking.
Just how it is.
I am guessing Frech is your first language.
Do you think the French would want to learn from a person who didn't speak the language correctly.
If you don't mind kinder garten, go for it. I personally would think hard before offering a job to you. If you go to Thailand and you are white and smile alot, they won't care for government schools............ But the top places won't be interested. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Dear oh dear. If that were true, how many native English speakers would remain in gainful employment?
Jerrycomo, I say go for it. I've worked with countless non-native teachers, all of varying teaching ability and command of English. Exactly the same as the posters on Dave's. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Don't be so hard on the kid Mrs McClusky!
THe OP's question was about language ability-
I think that most of us here would agree that very advanced non-native English speakers can make excellent English teachers. All we know about the OP is from his or her postings, but if we take them at face value, I'm assuming we're dealing with a high level speaker.
So...Language level isn't an issue, imo.
NAtionality would be an issue in some cases, for some countries and employers. Not usually in this case, though, as the OP is from what's generally recognised as an English speaking country. (Rightly or wrongly by region, but it is.)
In terms of how good he or she will be in the classroom- hard to say with a newbie. But this is a newbie board!
If I were considering an application from you, OP, I'd be much more interested in (or potentially worried about) your qualifications than your accent.
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Justin |
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