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[desert_traveller]

Go Saher Go !!!

http://www.saher.gov.sa/e_Roles-and-regulations.aspx

i have removed about half of the items from the list

i always knew that driving was 'bad' here, but to see how many explicit rules people customarily break is quite amusing

my emphasis for my favs

Traffic violations table number (1)

9- To cross the traffic light at the red light.
10- To drive the vehicle in opposite direction of the traffic flow.
11- To drive elusively in high speed between vehicles on public roads.
12- To exceed the speed limit by more than twenty-five kilometers per hour.
13- To overtake in areas where overtaking is prohibited such as corners and the highlands.

15- Not covering or proper wrapping of loads.

17- No full stops at (Stop) sing.
18- Not giving priority through full stopping at ( priority ahead) in the case of the passage of vehicles on the road which has been given the priority.
19- Not giving priority to vehicles coming from the right side at the intersection of equal priorities at the same time, and when there is no priority sign.
20- Not giving priority to vehicles on the main road in the absence of priority sign.

22- Not giving the priority to vehicles inside the roundabout in the absence of traffic lights or a traffic policeman to direct the traffic flow.
23- Driving a vehicle without the necessary equipment such as brakes, lights, or their equivalent, putting public safety at risk (with impoundment of the vehicle until the removal of the violation).

24- Not using lights needed when driving or in bad weather conditions where visibility is not clear.
25- Driving the vehicle inside a tunnel without lighting its lights.


Traffic violations table number (2)

1- To modify the vehicle or addition of parts to its body without taking the legal procedures to make such modifications ( with the impoundment of the vehicle until the removal of the violation).

3- Driving a vehicle that causes pollution to the environment on public roads ( with the impoundment of the vehicle until the removal of the violation).
4- To exceed the speed limit by not more than twenty-five kilometers per hour.

7- Non-compliance with traffic regulations at intersections.

9- To transport a number of passengers more than the number specified in the registration license.
10- To load passengers in areas not specified for them in the vehicle.

12- Non-compliance with road lanes.
13- Leaving objects or things on public roads, hence, putting public safety at risk.

Traffic violations table number (3)

3- To violate the rules for using lights when meeting other vehicles.
4- Not taking the necessary precautions when stopping the vehicles in emergency cases.
5- Installation of obstacles inside the vehicle which obstruct the driving vision.

12- Unbuckling of safety seat belts.
13- Non-use of children safety seats.
14- Non-observance of priority to pass rules.

16- Using of mobile phone by hand while driving.
17- Misuse of the vehicle horn.
18- Not wearing a helmet when driving a motorcycle.
19- Driving the vehicle in undedicated lanes.
20- Failure of animals� owners to move their animals away from the roads.


Traffic violations table number (41)

1- To equip the vehicle with unauthorized devices or to place indecent slogans or posters that violate the public morals.
2- To leave the vehicle on public roads in areas not allocated for such vehicle with a necessity.
3- Throwing of any objects outside the vehicle during driving.

5- Passengers to get out/in the vehicle while moving.
6- Pedestrians crossing the road from places other than places designated for their passage.
7- Pedestrians� non-compliance with their directive sings.
8- To drive slowly which impede the traffic flow.
9- Parking in places not intended for parking.

11- Not paying attention to the road while driving the vehicle.
12- The lack of an insurance policy.

[Grendal]

I even heard of a Saudi driver sueing the municipality for putting a light post where there wasn't one before. The reason for the lawsuit: He hit the pole!!!!

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[Never Ceased To Be Amazed]

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NCTBA

[trapezius]

^^^ All of that is bovine excrement.

I see most of those 'violations' on a daily basis, and all of them every few days. That's just the way people drive here.

If they really meted out punishments for all those violations, the traffic would literally come to a halt, and > 75% of people would be punished one way or another. But how is that logistically possible? It isn't. The vast majority of people commit those 'violations' (they don't even know that half of those violations are indeed violations, and I know this for a fact) regularly, and they will continue to.

If the driving situation is to improve in this country, it will be from the bottom-up, not top-down. These violations are tied with other highly pervasive improper and immoral behaviors, such as tossing garbage on to the streets, cheating in schools and universities, cheating in business, 'wasta', demonization of menial worker expats, racism, extremely ugly behavior of Saudi police/iqama/passport officials towards people, esp towards expats, smoking everywhere, even next to the deli in supermarkets, etc.

When people start raising their kids on their own and teach them manners and proper civil behavior, these violations will stop, along with the other things I mentioned.

Give it a century, or two, in other words. (assuming the state of affairs is actually improving, which it might not be)

[veiledsentiments]

[Grendal]

Saudi children grow up trained to the fact that the automobile is a place of leisure and play. They never equate danger with cars until they are driving down a highway one day, at 220 kph, and have a blowout. Then they see their life flash before their eyes and say it was the will of God that they die and whomever else they may kill in their fiery flips and tumbles.

Children crawling on the dashboard, hanging out windows, on dad�s lap learning how to be a bad driver, playing with all the instrumentation while dad has illegally parked the car and left it running while he ambles on into the bakkala to buy a miswak, 11 year olds driving mum to the store because mum isn�t allowed to drive, and many many more instances that reinforce the idea that the car/family car is not treated as a serious piece of machinery that can kill.

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[scot47]

Sane people minimise their exposure to drivers on Saudi roads. I have vowed to stop making the 1000km round trip from my place of work to Dammam.

[Never Ceased To Be Amazed]

I agree scot...you should end those daily Riyadh-Dammam commutes. 1000 km is jes' to far to drive round-trip on a daily basis.

Can't you find housing in the EP?

NCTBA

[Mia Xanthi]

Grendal, you did an excellent job of summing up the situation. In the US, a lot of people complain about "Asian" drivers as being dangerous because they are first generation drivers who did not grow up with the example of Dad driving the family car to show them the way it should be done. You have pointed out that it's not just generational, but the quality of driving in the generation. If children grow up seeing Dad treat the car like a toy and treating the car carelessly, driving dangerously, and paying no attention whatsoever to the safety of the children in the car, the next generation of drivers will be even worse....and it is almost unthinkable to imagine drivers who could be worse than the current generation of Saudi drivers.

It takes a long time and a lot of money and effort to educate a generation even about things as simple as not throwing trash out the window and onto the road. KSA faces an enormous challenge in trying to educate its men about what constitutes safe (not to mention considerate) driving.

Hopeless....and hopelessly sad.

[Never Ceased To Be Amazed]

Hear, hear...to both Mia and Grendel...especially for pointing out the extremely poor role models which we all see on a daily basis. For me, it harkens back to the late-60's/early-70s and a commercial that pointed out the connection between a father's act and the son's imitation...it had to do with smoking..."Like father, like son" was the the dialogue...and the World continues to spin...

NCTBA